Off the top of my head...I wanna say Miller on a KR and Brad Smith at another point...Maybe also Cotchery as well. I definately would have to re-watch the game but their were 3 at the least, my friend said 5, I counted 4.
Who cares about facemasks ???????????? Aren't you upset about the refs missing a call, huddling and not getting it right, and then not asking upstairs ??? Isn't that more important ??
I know that the rule says that Judgement calls are not reviewable but isn't every call the refs make or don't make (like 4 face masks) judgement calls. Like the punt return it was in the officals judgement that the returner didn't touch the ball. We challenged and lost!!! It was still in the officals judgement that the returner never touched the ball.
Yeah.... because YOU said it was the end of the discussion it is, right? Self righteous..... for a fact, the refs CAN decide to review a call that is unchallengable. You are confused between what is challengable vs. what the refs can decide to review. THEY could have revewed it, but not because of a red towel. BUT.... you are the man in my sig.
We're just making a POINT BRO. We both know that the end was horseshit...But we're also mentioning the no call of the facemaks on this referee crew... Chill out, we all know the ending was bad, but the refs were bad all around.
last i checked....ive seen plenty of teams get plays reviewed over being pushed out by the opposing team before maintaining possession...once in a while you should consider watching a football game that doesnt have the jets in it...just once in a while
I've never heard of them being able to call upstairs on a judgement call. The call could have been reversed but only if the refs on the field came to that decision without calling upstairs to the replay booth. This has nothing to do with the way it should be, it's just the rule.
You're wrong. The only thing they could challange on a play like that would be something like: If he maintained possession of the ball while he was coming down (like, did the ball move while he was in the air). That's the only reviewable aspect to this.
The thing is, there's no way to solidly say he would have gotten 2 feet down. With a facemask, you can clearly see hand on face. It's something that either happened or didn't happen. With that call, it's something that either might or might not have happened if the play played out differently. It's based more on speculation than visual evidence.
The thing that bothers me most is that every play is based on ones judgement. If a player drags his feet and the ref says he doesn't then isn't that the refs judgement. Same thing for the play today. It just makes no sense that we can challenge a refs judgement on where the ball should be spotted but not on wether or not a player is pushed out of bounds.
1-Your situations are totally different from each other. A bobbled pass is not a judgement call. It's a call about Possession. 2- I watch NFL Football ALL DAY. 3- Not to sound arrogant but I know plenty about and the rules of football. I think the Issue we have here is that people can't grasp what The term "Judgement call " really means.
HOLY SHIT...the fucking play is unreviewable. not allowed to review it. you just cant fucking review it. RoyalTee, why do people have such a hard time grasping this??
Well based on the above pictures I can speculate and visualize how easy it would be for him to come down in bounds. Its total BS.
Dude, I have no Idea........ My only theory is that they don't comprehend what a "Judgement Call" means....
Yeah, but it was their judgement that instead of being 2 feet inside the line he was really 4 feet outside the line. And the play isn't reviewable since we can't question their 'judgement.'
WOw... You have just made big strides....:beer: Glad to see this. Now, We agree that we got robbed and that this rule should be changed....:wink:
This isn't a 'judgement call' -- THEY GOT IT WRONG !!!!! The ref clearly thought the play was coming from across the side and that Baker's momentum would have carried him out of bounds. This wasn't a judgement call...this was a BLOWN call. But everybody relax, we all know that because the NFL office is in NY, we get plenty of things in our favor -- like getting more in compensation for Belichick being tampered with than Parcells leaving of his own voilition. Oooopss.....
