You could be right. To me, it depends on who is there at 14. Say Clowney, Watkins, Bridgewater, Manziel, Mack, Robinson, Matthews, Bortles, Clinton-Dix, Evans, Gilbert, Ebron, and Lewan are gone. The guys still there that are ranked at the top are Dennard, Pryor, Lee, Beckham Jr, Mosley, Barr, Martin, Cooks, Benjamin, Shazier, Donald, Hageman, Jernigan, Tuitt, Nix, etc. On my board, I'd rank the top 3 as Dennard, Pryor, Beckham Jr. If we wait, Pryor, Dennard, and probably 1 receiver will be gone. The bears are likely targeting a defensive tackle, and none are thought to be gone by the 18th pick unless the Bears took 1 at 14. If we give up a little and move up, it could be the difference between getting Dennard or being stuck taking Lee as BPA. To me, that is a major drop off in value, and worth what we'd give up.
The O line is in an interesting state overall. RT is held by an average but aggressive player for at leads a couple of years. RG is in complete flux with no future at the position unless Campbell pans out. C is good, I think Mangold will see the length of his contract (4 years left) LG is in need of an alternative to Winters in case he continues to struggle. and LT is held down by the teams most expensive player for the next 4 years, who may or may not be in decline. really help at guard is a more pressing need than anything else, which sucks since apparently this isn't as good a year for guards as it is tackles. Moves made to better the o line in the draft should be expected to occur late like last year, barring some unforeseen can't miss tackle dropping our way. As is I think our best bet is to hope that last years rookies pan out in some capacity. (ESPECIALLY winters) Not expecting much of Calvary from the first two rounds in that regard.
We still have way too mng needs, we should stay put and take the BPA. There is a good chance the BPA will fill one of our many needs.
If you take a guy in the third round and make him start, you have to give him more than 1 season. I think we have enough competition on the o-line for right now, since Aboushi can compete for guard and Campbell could be much improved after his first season converted to o-line. If the later rounds yield a guy that makes the front office say "how the hell did this guy fall to this point?" then I have no problem drafting an OL, but I agree that right now we might as well see how the young guys look this year.
Way too many needs? We can easily grab a WR or a Safety in rounds two and three. With two 4th rounders, we can go OLB and ILB developmental prospects. With the 5th we can go blocking TE. We can grab a punter, and two developmental fliers in the sixth. What other holes are there? With this theoretical draft we would have addressed: CB WR S ILB OLB TE P x x I'm not seeing any major needs here.
I think that no matter what we go best player available. I didnt really see Richardson as a need last year but he turned out to be a great pick. Dont be surprised to hear Dennard, Nix, or Pryor with that first round pick. Its a deep wideout class and after Ebron they may decide that we can get a serviceable TE later. I still want OBJ or get Benjamin in 2nd. If we sign Rice then I can see us waiting on someone to fall.
Let's please remember these signings are simply stop gaps that will allow the younger guys to develop. I hope he stays the course and keep his 18th pick, choose the BPA no matter if it's defense I want BPA. No trading up or trading back, use all 12 picks and keep adding players.
Things like this make me laugh. Everyone always think they know exactly what a team will do based off of need, which it does apply to some teams (the consistently bad ones), it doesn't apply to teams like us who literally will take BPA no matter what. We will go with whoever they have rated the highest on their board. It could be any position, it could be DL again. Never know.
i wouldnt trade up for any skill players but watkins or ebron.. and that i still wouldnt do if i were the jets as bad as i love those two players
I've had this in the back of my mind for a few weeks now. OL early would make alot of sense. But personally..I really liked what Idzik did last year when he loaded up on developmental OL types late.The need on the OL is not exactly immediate. Yes it can be upgraded but no spot is pressing(although Winters MUST make major improvements). I say let's add another tackle/interior guy in the 4th round or later.We'll see what we have between them,Campbell & Aboushi a year from now when a re-tooling will be in order after a year of development behind the scenes. This draft's strength is skill. Let's fix that need once & for all while the gettin's good.
I don't think the "focus will clearly be on running the ball" (return to ground-&-pound? Nope) but to create an O that can be effective equally in both the run & pass. The signing of CJ will not only add a speed-back in the run game, but he'll be equally as effective (if not more) in greatly enhancing the short-passing game; dump-offs/screens, etc. as CJ is an absolute terror in the open field (provided he can return to his old form).
Can't argue with this..... Installing new, offensive "weaponry" means nothing if the line cannot protect.
A quality OL can still be nabbed in the third round thus should focus on Best WR, Best Corner or Best LB in first two rounds.
It isn't likely that signing Johnson will cause the draft strategy to deviate: BPA all the way. About the o line, @TonyMaC said it best: Idzik loaded up on the back end of the draft. Those developmental picks should bear fruit when the Jets need them. At least, that's the hope. Sent using Tapatalk
Would not be surprised if our 1st rounder is Martin g/t Notre Dame. Would not be unhappy with the pick either.
to answer the question of the thread, nothing about the Jets draft strategy changes as a result of CJ's arrival, but we can keep talking about just HOW they can go about fixing their O-line in the draft regardless. its offseason and we ache for for football, why not? A first round T would warrant a classic SOJF response and much mockery among media members (they should have got a CB/WR!) but its entirely possible, especially if they can be a replacement at LT for an expensive D'brick. there are highly valued Tackle's that can be considered the BPA above several other popular names. What would be annoying is not getting an immediate contributor out of our first pick though, theres no reason to sit either of the current starters this year and theres no way to cut either without a negative cap hit. on the plus side if the guy is worth his salt thats a young above average anchor at the tackle position on the cheap for 4-5 years. good long term value might outweigh 2014 awkwardness in the end, but I don't think that happens all the same. I'm sure the best will be taken anyhow expect maybe Lewan but he's got concerns attached to him that might not warrant a BPA stamp. all i'm saying is if Robinson or Mathews falls for some reason I think we pounce regardless of whatever else is there. Guard? nothing to it, wait it out and don't take until its an obvious pick. anybody got a read on lower picks though? somebody jump out that we could use if drafted in the second or third?
Heh. Rex wanted to move Coples to OLB, and did so. Richardson in effect replaced Coples on the DL. We can talk all the semantics we want about this, but the pick was not pure BPA. As for the OP's question, I thought OL was a prime need before the Johnson pick, up there with another starting wideout and cornerback, above TE and safety. The more the off season goes on, I can see the Jets leaving Allen and Landry as the starting safeties. Perhaps Reed comes back, and they don't go there with a high pick. As for TE I am disappointed in Cumberland, and think as a starter he is below average for the position. But I doubt they go there in the first three rounds unless someone higher on the team's boards falls to them. My biggest criticism of hte off season is that the team has "managed" themselves into the situation where they need a quality cornerback, and at this point their best option to get him would be in the draft. I am no expert in the draft (since I don't have time to watch college football), but I have heard some say the draft is much deeper in receivers than cornerbacks. It would therefore follow that if a quality Cb is available in either the first or second rounds, I wuold expect the Jets to jump at the chance. At this point, that does not mean they go wideout with the other top two pick, though. Yes, OL needs an upgrade. Colon stayed injury free last year, which was a stroke of luck for the Jets. And not because he played well. But the bench is a huge question mark at Guard. Winters would not have played last year if there was any depth whatsoever in interior linemen. But then I have also heard that the draft is thin at OG. So again IF a quality lineman falls to the Jets, which I fear is unlikely, they will take him, too. Need assessment I think at this point goes in this order: Cornerback Interior OL Wideout Tight End Safety What kills me about that list is how unimpressive the linebackers are as a group, but even D minded Rex I see wanting to give Coples a year to show if he can make a difference as an edge rusher. Harris they likely see playing another year at last year's level, as they do for Pace. Both of them will have us holding our breath, though, since again who plays behind them? I guess MacIntyre might be serviceable off the bench, but could be a problem as a starter. They probably also hope Davis shows the improvement he did not last year. Lots of question marks at linebacker, but given needs elsewhere, the group does not even get into the top five of needs. As for whether Johnson affects the draft strategy, perhaps marginally. Making use of a more run oriented attack is obviously helped by an effective OL. The Jets OL last year was much criticized by Smith Fans for not helping him enough in pass blocking, but they could be an even bigger help if they upgraded their run blocking. I therefor hope they go OL with one of their two top picks, a third rounder at worst.
