I honestly don't think it's as much being frugal as it is stupid, or not realistic. He has spent a LOT of money on players, some of whom were older and at the end of their careers. If he was simply frugral, I don't think he would have agreed to signing all those FAs, or wouldn't have signed off on bringing back Revis for such a huge amount. Since Woody has never really worked for a living, I think he really wants to do something for once in his life, to feel like he built something, did something with his time. I think that may be why he never hired a football guy. He had Parcells at first. Maybe he thought he learned as much from Parcells as he needed to. Maybe he's naive and trusts his GMs too much. Whatever the case, he really needs to hire a qualty, experienced football man to run the team. I don't think we'll ever get to the promised land if he doesn't. I don't remember about the West Side Stadium. Someone with a better memory than mine can speak to that, but that stadium was going to cost a bloody fortune. I think Woody was requiring some funding from the city and state, however, as well as perhaps private business that would have been around the stadium. I don't think you can blame him there. I don't know how much money he has, or how much the stadium would have cost, but it would have taken a LONG time to recoup that cost, and it possibly could have left him cash poor to sign players, and that would have been no good.
losing never helps anyone win. They are tanking because they believe talent and talent alone is what wins games and spending the number 1 pick on a talented QB is the long goal term for winning. The players you mention may not even be here by the time this ship gets turned around
Nobody is wrong w. what they are saying about culture. That said..I don't think the jets have a horrible culture in terms of off the field. Players generally seem to like being here, they largely take the high road in PR & based on many visits to training camp over years everything is first class.Jets also do alot of charity events...granted I don't follow such happenings w. other teams but it always seems like the jets do just as much of that if not more than many other franchises nationwide.Now the off the field legal/extra curricular is a circus & that parts need to be cleaned up...but I'm not sure if I include that in the "culture" category b.c it isn't quite so interpersonal. It's all about discipline & accountability. The portion of the culture that needs to change is on field mentality,team concept & stamina. This team has NO collective backbone when adversity strikes.They never issue payback when provoked, when the pressure is on they come up their smallest & when things are at their lowest the players they really need to provide a spark shutdown & disband.Consider how lousy the team has played on the road for many many years. And that's when you really find out about a team's mental stamina. Hostile road environments that cry out for banding together & willing execution. There's alot "I" instead of "We". Things don't need to be Yay Rah Rah..these are modern day professionals after all..but when things are tough somebody needs to stare teammates in the face & say "No more. Time to Rise above. We are Jets together" That hasn't happened in a long LONG time. I think Rex understood that..maybe only on defense but he at least recognized the issue. Bowles seems like a jaded Ex player who is non sense & all business to a fault. As for where we are at w. all of this? Jets continue to wanna leave it up to the players to govern the locker room. Makes total sense. All they can do is try to keep a good pulse on the team chemistry so they can continue to bring in the type of personalities needed to instill a better sense of team. Jamal Adams & Marcus Maye were considered elite level leaders on the college level. Have to hope they dont lose their way & that their voices are heard going forward.
I agree that the West Side Stadium would've been a colossal expense, and wasn't a good idea, but he could've looked at other options. Worst case, he might've agreed to share the Yankees or Mets stadiums again, although that likely would've continued the problem of not being able to play home games early in the season, and getting bumped. But still, it wold NOT have been virtually admitting your second class status like playing in a stadium named after your rival! To me that was one of the worst decisions ever made in sports history. I cringed whenever I watched a Jets game being played in GIANTS stadium, and now it's not much better. Yes, Woody has, at times. thrown bags of money at FAs - witness Revis. But where was that money when Revis walked the first time? But focusing on whether he's spent money on this player or that player, misses the overall point that he hasn't invested in building a TOTAL winning team. Again, the clearest way I can show this is to compare his decisions to those of the consistent winning franchise owners, and the difference is glaring.
I didn't say that the WS Stadium was a bad idea. I thought it was a great idea and where the stadium should have been built. They would have been NYC's only team. It was a beautiful stadium. For the first time in their history, they'd have had their own home, and what it would have done for the west side of the city was fabulous. Woody just didn't do his homework to make sure that it would pass. He was too naive about politics. Not having a suitable backup plan was horrible. The Yonkers raceway would have been a great backup plan. MetroNorth was going to build a stop there. There was highway access and fans from NJ and LI could get there. Winding up back in the Meadowlands and sharing a stadium with the Giants was the worst possible move Woody could have made.
Sorry, I misunderstood your assessment. But I fully agree with the lack of a backup plan was ridiculous, and also that Yonkers Raceway would've been a great choice. And of course agree 1000% on the last part.
I agree he should hire a football guy as VP but I don't think he realizes that what he is doing is wrong. He is essentially a fan who wants to win and that causes the free agent spending spree that get us close to competitive for a year or two and then back to 8-8 5-11. Finally he agreed to blow the whole thing up. It's long over due. It may be painful for a couple of years but there's hope.
IDK if I'd call him frugal. He has put a significant amount of funds into improving the brand from where it was prior to his arrival. Granted, he seems to miss the notion that winning is the ultimate means of growth for a brand. He's put significant funds into facilities,game day experience & otherwise. I think when it comes to winning he lacks knowledge from a wider lense. If the team has one glaring hole thats undermining an otherwise good team(QB Aside) he'll pull the right strings to make that deal come about.Really anything that stands for instant gratification that he can initiate by writing a check..he'll do. It's the little things that go into winning & losing that he is absolutely clueless about. The fact that we've gone through so many regimes w.o a single hint of a long term vision or sustainability leaves one wondering if that ignorance stems from the top down. "Path of least resistance" is a large part of things. He settled on sharing w. the Giants, he settled on Idzik when the search didn't go exactly as planned & he rushed to hire Bowles before even having his GM in place. He'd rather do the easy wrong than the hard right & is rarely willing to take a risk for greatness. That said the "Doesn't understand football like the Maras/Rooneys" thing;While that maybe true..outside of 2-3 other exceptions..none of the modern day NFL owners have any clue about running a football team.Arthur Blank,Crooked Kraft,Irsay...they're all imperial minded businessman. The difference is they've hired,delegated & intervened in a much more effective way than Woody..
Winning culture comes from great coaching, leaders, and most of all, actually winning. Before Belichick and Brady came around would people say that the Pats had a winning culture? Top notch leadership breeds winning and avoids the country club culture which so easily comes about in the NY market unless players are kept in check. There's a reason why NY teams usually don't win without a special group of players with amazing leadership along with the right coach.
Hustle, wanting to score, not worrying about making offensive mistakes, if mistakes are made being called out for it and having to answer to someone when coming off the field. If any of these occurr along with a coach who has a press conference after a loss and attempts to give honest answers on why things did not go right during the game will be the culture change we are all looking for.
i didnt say they should be fired. I said they will be fired. So it doesnt matter how good they are or are not. This is the jets. They won't make it past next season. And this is their third year. If the owner saying he wants the number one pick publicly, and the purge of all talent under the age of 30` doesnt convince you we are gonna suck, then maybe the 1,000-1 odds in vegas will tell you what people who bet on football for a living think about the talent on our team. This is what rock bottom looks like, it sucks. But I think its sad that some of our fan base doesnt even know what is going on. They think we are going to be better? How? Josh Mccown? Petty who almost died on the field last year cause of oline. Hack who cant throw the ball in the same spot two times in a row? I think we will get the number 1 pick, I think we will draft sam darnold, I think we will have at least a new coach and maybe a new gm in 2018. I also think we will be in a much better spot after these things happen. But i think this year is going to be a disaster. If I am wrong than I will admit it. Its just the way I am reading what is going on.
Hi, Glenn, how's by you? You can't change the culture. It's been sent out to the lab repeatedly. It's definitely strep.
