Does the Len Wms pick translates to Jets saying "GoodBye" Mo' ?

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  1. PutJerrichoIn

    PutJerrichoIn Member

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    Yes! "Milliner is best player available and allows us to address corner much cheaper - its unreasonable to devote that much cap % to one player".

    Fast Forward to us dying to overpay a 3 years older Revis after winning a SB with our rival.

    (I'm aware we were able to Sheldon Richardson for Revis so it more or less worked out in the end, but I feel like we are going down a similar path with this Leonard Williams/Trade Wilkerson thinking)
     
  2. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    This is in the trade Mo-Wilk for the 2nd pick thread but that's too late the 2nd pick has already passed. If we were to somehow get Williams and 2 first round picks for Wilkerson this would be a great move. Make it happen Mac, show us we weren't stupid for doing what we did last night. Don't settle for 1 get 2.
     
  3. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member

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    look, this should be stated if it hasn't been already

    there actually is no reason to trade wilkerson. we can keep sheldon on a rookie deal until 2018 and leonard on a rookie contract until 2020. if williams becomes a pro-bowl talent, those will be two of the best bargain contracts in the NFL. this allows us to get away with having three ELITE defensive linemen, while only paying one big money for 3 more years

    also, wilkerson is still young as he's only 25. after 3 years when we start paying him big money, Revis's contract will be extremely manageable and I doubt Cromartie will be on the team. Not to mention, the cap will increase every year

    we need to look at the big picture here, a lot of the analysis here has been lazy
     
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  4. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    If you play a traditional 3-4 then yes, but fewer and fewer teams play traditional 3-4, especially the Bowles defense.
     
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  5. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    i have never seen a team with this amount of DT's (3-4 de's) on the field at the same time..and bowels used more sets with more DB's then lineman
     
  6. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    Doubt we trade Wilkerson. Press says the Jets want multiple first rounders for Mo. Ha.
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Actually somebody on NFL network said last night the Jets could get that too..remember John Abraham.
     
  8. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    us asking for multiple firsts for Mo is basically us saying "we're not trading him.. unless it's to a dumbass"
     
  9. 1968jetsfan

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    Yes, which makes it even more important to have DL who can play any of the 3 positions in a 3-4 base. You have more flexibility to mislead the offense and make it more difficult for them to determine where the play is.
     
  10. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Babin got significant playing time last year. Williams will pick up that time. Douzable too. They'll find time for everyone.
     
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  11. BomberJet

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    Mo isn't going anywhere, as far as the Jets are planning. He's obligated to one more year. That's what the "Franchise Tag' was designed to do in case they can't agree to a renewal.

    You think the Jets would pass up the opportunity to see Mo in the middle of that line with Sheldon , snacks and Williams? I would think not.
     
  12. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what it means with mo, other then the jets now havesome insurance and leverage and dont have to panic if/when he holds out

    but i dont think thats why we took him, i think we took him cause he was head and shoulders the best player in the draft
     
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  13. Fightin'JetTitan

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    Jets pick def. lineman, L. Williams, with the 6th pick.

    Every-1 saying he's the BPA @ #6.

    Jets picked def. lineman, V. Gholston, @ #6 several years ago.

    Every-1 said he was the BPA @ #6.

    What, me worry !!??

    I put it all in the hands of The Almighty Above!
     
  14. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Gholsten was a workout warrior with huge biceps.

    While many liked the pick there was a lot of disagreement.

    With Williams it seems that there is little to no baggage and everyone likes him.
     
  15. SuperBowlesChamp

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    I think we keep Mo for the final year of his contract, and then we franchise him in '16. If an other team wants him for '16 then we will be very nicely compensated. If no other team wants him, which is possible considering they'll know we really have no intention of resign him, then he'll be with us for 2 more seasons.
    So no worries here my fellow Jets fan family, lets just sit back and enjoy having the most talented D-line in the league for the next couple of years.
     
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  16. Turbocharged23

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    I think that overlooks a glaring issue. That means that we will get nothing but a comp pick for arguably one of the few first round draft picks that we got right in past 5 years. This in light of throwing $21mm to an aging, two down LB Harris. Getting a comp pick for Wilk would be a huge travesty.
     
  17. SuperBowlesChamp

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    Lions couldn't resign Suh, and from what we're hearing, Mo wants Suh and Watt type money. I love Mo, but I believe in 2 years, He'll be the 3rd best DE on our squad. I agree, it sucks to get nothing but a conditional pick for him, but that's the way the league is. Ideally, we'll manage to at least get 1 1st rdr for him before his departure.
     
  18. jetsclaps

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    Bowles said NT is the most important position for a 3-4 defense.
     
  19. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    if we franchise him, and someone else signs him, we get 2 first rounders. not a comp pick
     
  20. Turbocharged23

    Turbocharged23 Well-Known Member

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    That will never happen. Justin Houston is more dominant at his position than Wilkerson is at his, yet didnt warrant two first rounders. I'm saying if we franchise him , then in 2017 he walks and we get practically nothing for a guy still in his prime that we drafted and developed.
     

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