As in so many of these polls, you have to be clear what the poll is about, and in this case I think the OP WAS clear enough, but somehow some others sort of misread the metric he was going after. The reason Sanchez deserves to be up there is because the overall effect of his selection FOLLOWED BY the production and lack thereof over an extended period made his career on the Jets a worse overall effect than, say, Gholston's. The Gholston pick was a total waste, and as others have pointed out it meant the Jets did not get the pass rusher they needed. But Gholston did not go out and play and make countless errors that cost the Jets games. By that metric, Sanchez might well be the worst pick, followed by his effect on the team, ever.
Mark Sanchez has been a disappointment, not a bust. You don't lead a franchise in playoff wins and hold the title of bust.
1. Roger Vick 2. Dslob 3. Ghost 4. Lam Jones 5. Nacho You will see that, 2, 4, 5 are all Jets fiasco after trading up, shipping off multiple picks in the process.
We actually started with a first rounder. Traded the first rounder for Doug Jolley (worthless) and a second rounder so we could position ourselves to take a damned kicker.
Absolutely, a franchise QB busting is much worse than a defensive cog busting. QB is always the most important player on the field, your 5th pick QB busting and given years to suck sets your franchise back a decade.
Great list but Nacho has done nothing to take Blair Thomas out of the top 5. I would probably switch Ghost and Dslob but you could make a good case either way.
1. Gholston - not a sack or fumble recovery or interception or anything, really. less than 0 value 2. Blair Thomas - remember how he was the 2nd pick of the draft? he started the penn state running back curse. 3. Roger Vick - I still don't understand why we drafted a fullback so high 4. Dewayne Robertson - still reeling because of what we gave up. 5. Anthony Becht - the first three picks being pretty good still doesn't excuse this terrible pick. you can get similar production out of minimum salary players. Honestly, Sanchez probably doesn't even make the top 10.
Becht couldn't catch for crap but the guy could block, so much so that he lasted 11 years in the league. For his longevity alone I'd remove him from your list. By definition the list should be high draft picks that didn't last. Mike Taylor (20th overall pick) played in 22 games (none started) has no tackles and 1 int as a LB. That's a Ghost like stat line.
No way. Stephen Hill is going to be a terrific #1 receiver. Ye, he has had some drop issues but he will get that worked out. With only a few months of learning routes, he managed to get wide open all the time, but most of the time Sanchez never saw him. Sanchez is the reason for his failure as much as anything. With a different QB he will emerge. Guaranteed.
ANY top 5 pick QB bust trumps any other bust simply because you have to commit many years to that QB before labeling him a bust (in most cases, guys like Jamarcus Russel imploding are rare, but he was a drug addict). You lose the years you committed to the QB bust, and you lose all the years you're forced to rebuild and find a new QB which can take decades.
has played 4 years for us. -2nd most playoff apps -most playoff wins -most title game apps -2nd highest win %(behind only Vinny 57 to 54%) Give me busts like this any day. People want Rex gone too, w/ most of the same team we went from HOF QB w/ no Brady to worry about against easiest sched in history while still missing the playoffs in 2008 to AFC Championship Game in 2009 & 2010 but Jet fans want Rich Kotite back.
You could surely swap Blair Thomas for Nacho - and it still looks like the sad list that is Jets failure. LOL.
God damn it, we have too many........ 1) Vernon Gholston 2) Blair Thomas 3) Mark Sanchez 4) Richard Todd 5) Roger Vick
The only issue I have with placing Blair Thomas on this list is the Jets themselves screwed this up. Blair Thomas ripped up his knee in college, sat out a year and came back had a good Sr year and got drafted highly then fizzled in the NFL so I get it that a #2 overall was a dud. The problem is NFL team doctors (incl the Jets) that examined him before the draft almost universally agreed that his knees were in such bad shape that he'd never last 5 years in the league. The Jets ignored this information and drafted him anyway. SO, while he was a bust I put most of the blame on the Jets not him, he was damaged goods before he played his first game.
Yes, I believe so too. Sanchez was supposed to be our franchise QB. We needed him to run the offense and be dominant. We went to 2 AFCCGs with him, and lost both. He gave us some hopes, and in the past 2 years has absolutely broke those hops down. Now, because of him, our team is going to spend the next 1-3 (maybe even more if the next doesn't pan out either) or so years trying to find a true franchise QB for us. Which means, we're probably not going to be a playoff threat for the next few years to come.
Best defense in the league, one of the best running games in the league. Now that he has only a top 10 running game and top 10 defense (not the best) the guy is hopelessly bad.
Our D was NEVER great, it was really good in 2009 as was our run game. In 2010 our run game was up and down as was the D. We never even make the playoffs w/o mark that year. I really wonder why people even watch football when they don't understand it at all? all they do is cite rankings w/o context. Never mind all the late leads the D blew in 2009, blowing a double digit lead in the title game, all the leads blown in 2010, allowing Pitt to run all over them in the title game, the run game which was nonexistant for much of '10, instead you focus on rankings which include Brad Smith runs and the meaningless week 17 game where we had about 300 rush yds in what was basically an exhibition game where we rested starters but the rankings say sowhich means it must be true! we have access to more info and video than ever and yet we don't evolve into being smarter football fans. Amazing.
Gholston is the biggest bust in history. 0 sacks in 3 years. Over 600 players in the league recorded at least 1 sack during that timespan. As the #6 pick and an athletic freak of nature, he had to have tried to not get any sacks. Mind boggling.
Dewayne Robertson wasn't the worst player I've ever seen, he just didn't live up to the hype. But there were far worse Anybody remember Dorian Boose? 2nd round Parcells bust
He wasn't much better than James Reed (7th round pick) though and had a similar body and wound up playing about the same length in the league as Reed. So using Reed as a reference point he was a bust.
