If I owned the #1 Pick there's no way I would pass on Kong Suh. He is so dominant he reminds me of someone like Mean Joe Greene. That's who I see when I watch Suh obliterate the line of scrimmage. He is so dominant that I really feel like if he fails to become a great player at the next level, I could never feel safe drafting a DT again, unless he fails due to injuries or something that has nothing to do with his ability. JMO
Not necessarily. If they're not convinced Bradford is a stud prospect worthy of the top pick, they shouldn't take him, plain and simple. If a top QB pick doesn't pan out, THAT'S what can really set a franchise back. Suh is as can't-miss a prospect as you can get. Bradford is not.
I feel that there entire defense will be immediately improved with Suh, markedly. With Jackson rushing and a Feely or another adequate QB, the offense just needs to not lose games. The offense with Bradford will struggle might even be 1 or 2 games better, of course, if he pans out, the sky's the limit, SB's and MVP's.
If the Rams could swing a trade down with the Skins and pick up another second rounder, I'd take Clausen in the first. I think he's better suited to play out of the gate than Bradford, and you get another second to build your team with. That is if the Skins go along with it..... I don't have a good feeling about Colt McCoy in the NFL. I doubt any of this will happen, they'll take Suh or Bradford. Fuck, I don't know. I know I wouldn't want any of these QBs this year and am glad we got the one we got last year.
I disagree with the first part, Kiper and McShay had this debate last year. When you draft a first round pick, a franchise QB if you will, you are asking him to do the best for your franchise which is ultimately Win. Case and Point Eli Manning, best QB in the league, No. Super Bowl winner, Yes. Another example, your New York Jets for the better part of the decade the Jets have had some good teams, and most of those successful years we had a QB who could lead, even if they were a compliment to Martin or our Defense You can still win in the NFL with good, not elite QB play. But either way you need a QB to win in the league. Now your second part I completely agree with, a bust QB sets your franchise back a decade. BUT, you can't assume a QB will bust. It is better to take Bradford now, because worst case scenario he busts, that means 4 to 5 wasted seasons. Now if they wait till next year or the year after that means 6 to 7 seasons of misery. No NFL exec can see what the future is and no one wants to have lots of wasted seasons, if the elite QB of a year is available and you want to achieve success, you should take him
For those questioning the importance of the Rams and Bradford not having a deal in place:I think that is because if the Rams don't pick him, the top 10 doesn't have many teams that need a QB like the Rams do. It would be likely that he would drop to the Raiders/Jaguars/Bills, so there's no need for either side to lose leverage on the deal. So I wouldn't put too much stock in that. I think that the double knee surgery is an ominous sign for anyone who is interested in Suh: I won't say he won't be productive because I think that's untrue, but considering the money he will get with regards to the risk of him not having a "full" career in the NFL, it's risky.
Sorry, but this post stinks. You say that they MUST draft the elite/top prospect QB........but then you go on to say you don't need elite QB play to win. That's an argument FOR them taking Suh and passing on Bradford, whether they draft Claussen/Tebow or find another option. You also make such a big deal about being set back 2 years, yet when discussing a potential bust, you then say "worst case scenario he busts, that means 4 to 5 wasted seasons." They cannot afford to waste this pick. Their team is in trouble, and they have a nice opportunity here. If they are not sold on Bradford being elite, then they should take Suh. He's being called, by most, the best prospect in years.
Actually, I'm with you on that one. You don't necessarily need an All-Star Hall-Of-Famer at QB to win. Which actually kind of goes along with my point, since he'd be paid like an elite QB right off the bat. Pound for pound, Suh is the superior prospect to Bradford (as are Gerald McCoy and Berry). Bradford usually is predicted as the top pick because of his premium position. As you said, you need solid QB play to win, and the Rams have obviously been lacking that. I expect them to take Bradford. My point was, if the Rams aren't convinced that Bradford is a top QB talent, or think that they can get comparable play from their current QBs for this year and wait until 2011 for a franchise QB, or if a Colt McCoy is close enough to Bradford that they could target him later (at far less cost).....they should take Suh.
Yes, necessarily. Look at Carriker. He was just as big a stud as Suh is coming out. Two years and 3 wins later Carriker is gone and they still dont have a QB. They WILL NOT take Suh. they may trade down and still take a QB but they will take a QB.
Actually, Carriker wasn't even close to the prospect Suh was when he declared. Suh is one of the best D-line prospects in a decade. I never said they were going to take Suh. In fact, I have said twice that I fully expect Bradford to be the pick for them.
I fully support this thread. After watching John Grudens QB Camp I just don't see star quarterback in Bradford. He has the personality of a wall, not to mention he looked sounded like an idiot when he won the Heisman. I understand he has amazing accuracy, but compared to Jimmy clausen thats all he has better. Clausen has more experience, more knowledge, and probably a stronger arm. We all know that they were talking about the "it" factor Sanchez had last year, and I just don't see it in Bradford. The notion that they shouldn't take a DT because they took Chris Long (a DE two years ago) and an O-lineman last year is ridiculous. D-kong is gonna tear it up and if I was the Rams I'd either trade down or take him.
I don't think that they will take Bradford #1 overall. I think they will either go Defense #1 and then trade up back to the first for a qb or Trade down from #1 and do both.
You have to get past the idea of being an elite QB, there are plenty of elite QB's who were not first round picks, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, Matt haselbeck (not at this point) you dont need an Elite QB to win games, you need a winning QB to win games, if you feel a QB is going to win games then you should take him. Now to do this you take the guy who you feel is best suited to win, its a fair consensus that Claussen and Bradford are the two most apt at doing so, they think that Jonathon Crompton can win them lots of games be my guest. In contrast their are plenty of elite QB's who havent won enough Philip Rivers, Carson Palmer etc.
Rotoworld is reporting that the Rams will indeed take Bradford. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=171827
