Does Aaron Rodgers play for the Jets in 2024?

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  1. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    I never said he didn’t care about football. I compared his commitment unfavorably to a guy who is well known for his commitment to the game.

    I made a joke about his vision quest because I think it’s a funny thing to hear about a QB doing and it’s not a method you often hear being sighted by top performing athletes. At least not to the extent he takes it.
     
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  2. kinggofg

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    Any one understand the economics of it? Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am) but there are a few contractual things at play:
    1. If he recovers from the injury and decides to retire doesn't he give up ~$70M ($35M next year and $35M the following)? Guarantees don't mean you get paid if you retire, correct? He may be wealthier beyond what you or I can understand but ain't nobody throwing away that kind of money.
    2. I think the jets only have $35M more "guaranteed" but if they don't cut him before he plays in 2024 season I think I read somewhere it makes it harder to void his 3rd year option (they structured it in a way that if he plays in 2024 he likely gets his 2025 money).
    3. There is going to be some salary cap stuff and restructuring that will need to be done so we aren't crippled for the next 5 years. Not sure if anything the league can or will do to ease this pain but in my opinion none of the $100M should count against our cap if he never plays any meaningful football for the jets.
     
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  3. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    You're comparing a RB with a QB
     
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  4. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    in my heart i want to believe he will as he doesn't want to end his career on this note.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    stop making sense
     
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  6. ouchy

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    He made 18 million this year so we'd only owe him 57 million in guarantees. We could release him as a post-June 1 cut but would have to carry $49 million in dead money, which includes his base salary plus guarantees, on our 2025 salary cap, and $17.1 million in dead money in 2024. If he returns next year he is going to have around a 50 million cap hit in 2025 no matter what.
     
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  7. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    I think he returns next season but I don't think we'll ever be seeing MVP Aaron.

    Last season was his worst ever, and it was said that was because of injuries and roster, but it was never determined if his slide was beginning or not. This year was supposed to be the measure. His mobility had already declined considerably and after a year off, plus this injury, he will probably be a solid journeymen at best. A guy who does not want to be hit, but cant scramble much.

    It may still be the best QBing we've had in a while, or it may not. If we don't nail down the line next season it will likely be the latter.
     
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    One other note here. Please Aaron, don't make us go through a long off season, with tarot readers and darkness retreats, before telling us your decision.
     
  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    its probably 50/50. sucks after hearing him say how he was going to be here years and could maybe even go to 45, then 4 plays in he might be done
     
  10. jets4848

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    By the way the guy who is 7 years younger and the jets could of gotten without giving any draft capital and longterm went 23-33 with 305 yards with a 97% Qbr against a nasty Tenesee defense, granted he probally last 5 games with this offensive line, but atleast we woulda used that pick on a lineman, Jets gonna Jet. Guess the fairytale story of Aaron rodgers coming here winning 2 superbowls and Zack Wilson winning another 18 is over. Well be drafting a new Qb with the 1st pick of the Nfl draft in a couple years. Woody fools us again!!!
     
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  11. Jeff M

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    Jets are not going back to the drawing board. They are all in on Rodgers, and barring something medical much beyond the normal 1 year recovery from ACH tear, he will be the 2024 QB.

    Rodgers wants to play.

    Focus will be on line upgrades.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    I have no idea if he will try to play again, but suspect he will. He is a competitor. Also, with the physical therapist saying that he would need to do the rehab for life he most certainly will do it. He loves to play golf, and I would think that he wouldn't be able to play golf very well with a torn or weak achilles.

    twown, I'm not so sure that the team will remain largely intact next season. At present, we are only $24 million under the cap and we will have 22 FAs. The cap is likely to go up $10-20 million, but that still probably won't be enough. The players who will be FAs are as follows:

    Carl Lawson
    Bryce Huff
    Jordan Whitehead
    Chuck Clark
    Quinton Jefferson
    Al Woods
    Solomon Thomas
    Adrian Amos
    Ashtyn Davis
    Bryce Hall
    Bradley Anae
    Duane Brown
    Dalvin Cook
    Mecole Hardman
    Randall Cobb
    Connor McGovern
    Billy Turner
    Kenny Yeboah
    Nick Bawden
    Thomas Morstead
    Greg Zuerlein
    Justin Hardee


    That's 7 starters (2 on offense, 2 on defense and 3 on STs), and Chuck Clark would have probably been another starter. It's also all of our DTs (except Q), all of our Safeties, two of our WRs. I don't see anyway that we'll be able to re-sign even half of these players. We could gain around $22 million more in cap space by cutting JFM, Uzomah, and Tomlinson, but then that's 3 more starters or two starters and one top backup that we have to replace. With only our 1st, 3rd, two 4ths, a 5th and a 7th round draft pick (I think) JD will have a very difficult time replacing players we lose. Rodgers' cap hit is $17 million, but if we were to cut him, we'd take a $66 million dead money hit, so he will be on the roster, unless he retires. I'm not certain if his retiring would remove his money from the cap. If so, as crazy as it sounds, the best thing for the Jets might be for him to retire. JD could keep all of the team's players that they want to keep, plus sign several FAs with an additional $66 million in cap space. We definitely want him back if he wants to play again, but the roster may not be nearly as good next year as it is this year.

    Brown, Cook, Lawson, Amos, Hall, and perhaps Huff are not likely to be back anyway. If they stay healthy and have good seasons, I think Zuerlein, Morstead and Hardee will definitely be back. I think the Jets will want to keep Whitehead (particularly if he plays the rest of the season like he did Monday night), Jefferson, Woods, Bawden, Thomas, Davis, and maybe Yeboah. Cobb may opt to retire, but if not, Rodgers would probably want him back. I think it will depend upon how Hardman plays this season whether the Jets want him back or not.
     
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  13. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Even if Zach were to develop and prove to be the real deal, Rodgers would still be back as the Jets wouldn't cut him after all he has done for the team and his taking the salary cut, plus even if they wanted to move on from Rodgers, they'd take a $66 million dead money hit on the cap, so that would be prohibitive. I think maybe his money would go off of the cap if he retired.
     
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    Wonder how Vinny or any other achilles tear injured player fared afterward ?
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think that happens because his rehab would be different between trying to come back, and going into retirement.

    Also, the jets would have to know to start planning for draft/free agents or whatever needs after this season. I don’t think it can be dragged out
     
  16. twown

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    Again, I am not very knowledgeable in this area, but only FOUR starters on offense and defense not under contract for next year?! Out of 22 starters? That's nothing, NC. I bet we're the only team in the league with that few. .
     
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  17. NCJetsfan

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    I'm no cap or contract expert, either, but again the problem is cap space. It could well be one of, if not THE lowest number of starters in the NFL, but with the limited cap space we have, it could be problematic. The good thing is that Whitehead can't be that expensive, and neither will Zuerlein, Morstead, Hardee, Bawden, Yeboah, Thomas, Davis, or probably Woods. If Jefferson gets a lot of sacks this season, his price could go up, and so could Hardman's if he has a good year.

    I can't believe it, but I just realized that I had forgotten Becton. Either I missed him on the Spotrac list or he wasn't listed. He won't be cheap to be re-signed, and if he has a solid year, you know the Jets will want him back.

    That still will be a LOT of depth to replace however, and with fewer draft picks and limited cap space, we could wind up with more holes next year than this year.
     
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  18. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

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    Aaron Rodgers has spoken he tweeted the following this evening. After thanking numerous people for their support he added:

    "The night is always darkest before the dawn. I shall rise again. Proud of my guys" hashtag Jets.

    We're just going to have to wait a little bit longer.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Section 336

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    Carl Lawson. replacement on team already
    Bryce Huff Replacement on team already
    Jordan Whitehead
    Chuck Clark
    Quinton Jefferson
    Al Woods
    Solomon Thomas
    Adrian Amos
    Ashtyn Davis
    Bryce Hall
    Bradley Anae
    Duane Brown not really a loss or concern
    Dalvin Cook
    Mecole Hardman
    Randall Cobb
    Connor McGovern replacement on team already
    Billy Turner
    Kenny Yeboah
    Nick Bawden
    Thomas Morstead
    Greg Zuerlein
    Justin Hardee



    The kickers can be signed or replaced at not much expense, I think they both come back.
    The D Tackles we will be able to find some, special teamers also. Cook and the receivers are gone and won’t matter.

    The only thing is the Safeties that will need to keep at least 1.
     
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  20. JoeWalton

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    From the looks of it, the script has already been written and approved by the Producers. LOL.
     
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