do you think that devin smith can reach his potential with fitz at QB?

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  1. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    Owusu and smith are useless in the offense. Coaching staff need to re evaluate there problems with Kerley. Smith for all this talk about his speed he's never open, owusu does nothing and drops 1/2 passes thrown to him. On a bad day Kerley is more efficient than both of them. Love the effort today and we had a shot but I'm fine with not seeing owusu smith or coples taking snaps from better players. It's hurting them. I didn't see the post game but let me guess it was coples who forgot to cover gronkowski. Lol.
     
  2. elgoman

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    Glennon is a good QB and a good deep thrower.
     
  3. jco2007

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    Kerley is better than both Owusu and Smith.
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It's pretty obvious too.
     
  5. Br4d

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    Right, but neither of those guys is ready to lead an NFL team right now. Fitzpatrick has the offense more focused than it's been in years, since Favre was here, maybe since Chad was the QB.

    Geno and Petty have better arms but their leadership skills are going to be the reason the offense can't move well with them in at this point. With Geno it's proven and with Petty you have to assume that's where it's going to be because he's a rookie out of a spread and nobody in the NFL thought he was worth more than a 4th round pick.

    Fitzpatrick has some warts under that beard but he is by far the most complete QB on the Jets right now.
     
  6. Br4d

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    Again, it's going to be about leadership. Glennon couldn't lead the Bucs AT ALL. That's why they gave him the starts they did and then moved on. Go read some of the Bucs forums and you'll see what I'm talking about. The fans just ripped "Lurch" up and down about his inability to lead the team when the game was still winnable and then how he'd snap too and start moving the offense when it was all over but the crying.
     
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  7. Geno007

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    How do we really know when he will reach his peak when the QB he has now can't throw him the long ball?
     
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    We drafted a one dimensional WR who caught only like 20 passes the year before in college. What did you expect? He missed a lot of time and even great rookie receivers usually don't start making noise until later in the season. Let's see how the year plays out.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    He looks a lot like Laverneus Coles did his rookie year. Another 1 dimensional speed rookie that took time to blossom
     
  10. Walt White

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    Great point. Coles was hurt coming into camp his rookie year an it took him a lot of time to get comfortable. I saw him in camp the first two years and the difference in him the second years was obvious.
     
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    I think it will take time for Devin..... We knew he was basically a one trick pony...... He needed to refine his game...... I also think a lack of pt on Sunday doesn't help either...... If he was starting for us I bet he would have had a big game or 2 by now, but he's buried on our depth chart behind 4-5 guys....
     
  13. elgoman

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    I think Geno would do fine in the NFL offense we have. He's 2 years in at the moment. He showed last year he can move the offense too. Leadership skills are subjective and don't mean anything. Eli is not a good leader nor is Flacco, and both are Superbowl winners. Alternatively, Petty will be ready to start in a year at the very least so I agree on sitting him.

    No, it's about how good a QB is. The problem with Glennon is that he checks down too much and is a statue in the pocket. The coaching staff just didn't think his upside was worth forgoing a #1 pick QB.
     
  14. IIMeanDeanII

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    Re-watch these passes to, Smith. Every time, Smith has a step on his man, and every time, Fitz has under thrown the ball.

    The goal in those situations is to not make it a 50-50 situation, although that would even be better than what it has been, its been throws that have been short and inside. What you want is OVER the shoulder and to the outside, you want to throw it in front of your man.

    I haven't seen that happen yet.
     
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    I did not like the fumble. He had started to run and the ball should have been put away. Very Geno-esque. I did not like all the tipped balls. They are very dangerous. But they are not all on the QB. To me the worst decision he made was the jump ball to Dev Smith on third down in the next to last drive, with Decker clearly open underneath, on the same side of the field. But those actually are quibbles, except for the last. And over the course of a game, with hundred decisions to make, they are not really all that much.
     
  16. Jersey Joe 67

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    I haven't seen the speed out of this kid that got him drafted, he doesn't seem to get any separation from the defenders.
     
  17. Imagesrdecieving

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    He's getting the amount of separation that you'll get in the NFL. This isn't college - a step is all any WR should expect to get on an NFL caliber CB.

    The problem (meandean summed it up perfectly) has been Fitzpatrick's placement on the go route passes. The pass needs to at least be towards the sideline.
     
  18. jco2007

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    If you watch a lot of NFL games, you'll see many receivers with more separation than Smith has gotten. I agree with the Fitz ball placement, but to say that is as open as you can get in the NFL is very incorrect.
     
  19. DeezNuts

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    Smith was supposed to be the Jet's answer to OBJ. He's still settling in at the moment, but he really has to make a big impact at some point this season to justify his draft pick.
     
  20. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    He's a 2nd round pick rookie. You want to compare him to OBJ who had maybe the best stretch of games that a rookie wr has ever had? The fact that you expect him to make a big impact is a bit scary.
     

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