I'm not down on him per se, but I just don't think he gives us the best chance to win. He can scramble pretty good, but that's about it.
I really want to see what Penny can do, but it wouldn't hurt to have Bolly in the wings in case #10 is injured again.
Oh, I agree. Bolly is a good stop-gap, but I don't want to see him starting every game. I think Ramsey has shown very little and would pick Bolly over him at this point. A high-powered gun is nothing without the scope, and unfortunately, I think that's what you get with Ramsey.
I'm totally disappointed with Ramsey. When we picked him up I thought he would push Pennington for the #1, but hes shown nothing.
I agree he fits well, but starting is a stretch. We need a guy with his mobility with this Offensive Line. The guy makes some very good points, but starting is a bit of a stretch.
I think that starting Bollinger would create the least amount of difference in the transition between the starter & when Clemens comes in. They are similar QBs (not saying the same skill level), they are both fairly mobile, and have arm strength better then Penny (IMO). I just think that starting Brooks Bollinger would help make the smoothest transition in the passing of the reigns... if Clemens is our future.
I can not help feeling that even if Brooks had the best camp and played the best in all the pre-season games, Mangini would not start him in the regular season. Brooks had the best time of posession of all the QBs in the Red Skins game. What was it like 20 minutes or something like that for that one drive?
Clemens does.... However, Pennington has stronger arm strength (and that's hard to say) the day after his 2nd surgery than Bollinger does. Talk about a weak arm.... I don't think starting Bollinger does anything but tell the vets "we have no interest in winning".. If you are worried about the transfer of power, then just play Clemens. This "he's going to be ruined if he plays too quickly" BS is BS. If you think he's the man for the future, he has to be tough enough to handle rough times.
Why the hell do you hate Bollinger so much? Everytime his name is brought up you are always around to say he is useless and has no potential. He actually did well last season.
DID WELL!?!? I dislike Bollinger as a player because he's not much of one. He has a lousy arm, and extremely happy feet. He's short, which isn't ALWAYS a problem, but for him it is because he can't see over the line. He doesn't progress through his reads well at all (looks at option #1 and then runs... don't blame the line... he does this when there is absolutely no rush too). You aren't going to win games with this guy at QB. I'm a realist and realize we're not going to have a great season, but we may as well just quit if we're going to play Bollinger. He won 2 games last year.. out of 10 he appeared in with significant duty. He averaged 5.66 yards per attempt (that's miserable). I know, blame the wRs and the line... They may have had a little to do with it, but Bollinger is not blameless here. He threw 7 TD and 6 INT.. hardly the 2/1 ratio you want. His rating was 72.9. Let's look into the wins. They won DESPITE him. 14/26 for 119 against Oakland. YAY! 11/20 for 153 against Buffalo. He didn't win this game, Justin Miller did. Yes, he threw for big #s against Miami but still only scored 20 points. Did you see what a good team did to him? Bollinger looked lost against NE. Did we even complete a pass in this 1st half? I can go on and on, but the fact is even in college they didn't trust him winning by throwing the ball. He's not a good quarterback. I honestly do not know how he's still in the NFL.
That NE defense was just a touch better than the 05 flavor.. just a touch. The other difference in that game is we actually had a chance to win it.. We had a dropped TD if I remember right too. (In the 2004 game I am referring to.. ) Now in the second meeting, at home, we scored 21. Ty Law scored 7 of them, and we scored the other 14 in SERIOUS GAR-BAGE TIME as Marv would say.
I'm sure Patrick Ramsey is much better than Bollinger is. It's not like he throws a lot of INTs and has a low completion percentage. Hey, given the circumstances that he was a 3rd string QB last year and the RB and Offensive Line situation was awful, I think he did pretty well, yes.
:shit: first, costa is exactly right. second, how many rings does noodle arm have? third, bellichek started bledsoe until mo lewis did the pats a favor and forced them to start brady. mangini made a mistake, unless he wants another top 5 draft choice.:rofl:
I have made the statistics argument previously and last year bolly was on his own basically and put up a 56.4 completion percentage and a 73 QB rating for his career ramsey had like a 55.6 completion percentage and a 75 QB rating... so based on stats bolly was better last year than ramsey has been for his career and Bolly had no help last year and as the article said, Herm did everything possible to stop bolly from helping the jets to win...
