I actually think D-Rob didn't play well at all today. Sure, it was better than his usual game, but his regular game is completely terrible. I don't care if he stood his man up on a few plays, he should be doing that AT LEAST every play. And by at least, I mean, if he's not standing his man up, he should be in the backfield. Robertson gets next to no penetration on anything near a consistant basis, and that simply won't do. I still can't believe Bradway spent two first round picks to get this guy. He may be adequate in the 4-3, but he is a terrible 3-4 nose tackle. If the Jets plan to continue running the 3-4, Robertson needs to be ready to pack his bags after this season. Now you can all go back to praising him for having ONE somewhat decent game this season.
He had some solid plays...But as a whole Indy still tore up the Jets on the ground...And Indy's had no run game to speak of thus far, so that says alot about DRob not adapting to the NT position.
So lemme get this straight.....he was terrible today yet we can continue praising him for one somewhat decent game...huh? I hate to call you out...but there is this constant hatred of D rob no matter what he does from people on this board.So he'll never be the lotery pick he as pegged to be..so what? That doesnt mean he can't help us on the football field! He DID play good today b.c I watched him very closely. He has been lousy in every other game this year w/ the slight exception of Tennessee...and everyone has called for his head. Yet even when he plays well and shows adaption to the scheme...it STILL isn't good enough. Sometimes I'm embarassed to be a jets fan...and it's reasons like this.
D-Rob was pushed around today, he didnt look good, he looked bad. Again. Did he look better then he has? Yes, but he was still pushed around.
I have always been a supporter of Robertson, and always thought that he was making an impact, just not getting the stats. That may have been true in the past, but he really is not performing in the new system. I understand that it is a new scheme, but he just doesn't have the drive and power to succeed in it, no matter how much time he has in it IMO. There is no way you can honestly tell me that you are happy with how he has played thus far in his career and that he was worth trading two first round picks to move up and get. If you somehow can, then I commend you for being able to be so optimistic. But I just can't appreciciate the guy. You may feel he is still helping the team, but I can't look at it that way because I feel there are much better suited players out there that would've made a much bigger impact on our defense (either through the draft or free agency, I'm still pissed we didn't sign Grady Jackson). As for that, I was saying that everyone who is praising him over what really is just an avergage game for most DT's can go back to praising him. He didn't have a good game, he had a decent game that just seems good because he usually sucks. Kind of like saying that the little fat kid got on base in gym class one day. Sure, it was a good day for him and it stands out, but for anyone else, it was just an average day.
and i cant believe we still have guys on our board that have absolutely no clue what the 3-4 defense is all about :rofl2:
You wanna blame anyone blame our OLBs for only making a couple plays a game...at least Vilma/Barton make the consistent tackles they are EXPECTED to make.
All defenses are about the same thing---stopping the other team. That is the only measure they are judged by. Our defense hasn't done that. It doesn't particularly matter in what way we failed, but D-Rob and Ellis certainly are culprits. Despite the fact that the NT is not expected to really post stats in the 3-4, you ideally do want him to get some "push" into the backfield, it's not necessarily what is meant by penetration, but it's certainly the right idea to see if D-Fat is taking up blockers or getting a push. He doesn't do either. I don't see what he actually does.
Thank you for that perfect response Serphnx. I couldn't have said it better myself. Especially that part.
it was great to see him register a few sacks today. hopefully he will build on them and our pass rush will get its lifeless ass in gear. when a safety is leading the team in sacks, you know there are problems with the ends.
reality is a bitch....the jets are 2-2.....if you sit back and think about it,,,didn't you think it would take at least one or two years (or more) to turn the mess around?
We have one of the best young secondaries in the NFL. It may be one of the most talented in this teams history? We have a horrible front 7. Payton Manning is going to light up any secondary in the league with our front 7 in front of them. It doesn't matter whether they play the 3/4 or the 4/3 they will still stink. We have 3 NFL starters on that front 7. After Ellis, Barton and Vilma, what player would start on any good front 7? Right now Vilma looks awful as well. He is a speed player who needs either a HOF quality Nose tackle in front of him or two very good DT in front of him. We don't have a good NFL quality DT on our team. If anyone watched the Pats play the Bengals tell me whether it was the secondary or the front 7 that stopped their passing game?
says the d-rob hater. no matter what he does, he'll always stay "d-fat" in your eyes so i dont take your post too seriously :up:
OT for minute though but can someone tell me what the hell has kimo done at all this season.. i know i pick on D rob alot but he showed up in the 4th qt. i was very happy to see that. but this guy has been flying under the radar. i can seem to remember him making play at all this season.
He may have played his best game as a Jet and made a tackle or two but thats saying very little- from the Upper Tier it looked like he got consistently eaten up in the middle. They gashed us on that cutback all day and DR looked like he was wearing roller skates. Im glad he made A play on the goalline but to say he got a good push all day and that he stood his man up is an absolute joke. Watch the game again, for most of the game he went wherever they wanted him to go.
some people have short term memory.. all they remember is the 4th qt.. forget about the gaping running holes the colts had in the 1st half
yeah i mean d-rob is our only defender after all. too bad he cant get a sack, stop the run and intercept a pass at the same play. he sucks
so what is it that he does? u seem to give alot sarcastic D rob post. how about just give us ur true thoughts on D Rob play. also Kevin wiliams had another sack yesterday that k will 28 career sacks vs robertson career 8 sacks..:up:
You want to be sarcastic that's okay but the fact is D'Rob along with Hobson and every one else on our front 7 who's name isn't Ellis, Barton and Vilma(Although Vilma has been awfull 2 games in a row) are part of the problem with our D. D'Rob would be a nice second string rotational line player on a really good front 7. The problem is he is being paid like one of the 5 best defensive players in the NFL. It may be his knee but the guy looks out of shape and totally unprepared to bring it on every play. The fact that he made a couple of nice plays yesterday is about his talent. The way he is continually pushed around and takes plays off is a testamount to his lack of shape, desire or physical health?
