McCourtey makes a ton of sense for the Jets. He's a very well rounded player whose strength is pass coverage. He's the perfect roaming safety for our D, he'd allow Pryor to play the Strong Safety spot which is where he is best suited to be. And like other people have pointed out, stealing a top player from a division rival is never a bad thing either.
gonna be a fight to get these big name guys this year were gonna have to slightly overpay but at least these guys are in their primes and not old. a lot of teams including contenders have a nice chunk of cap space
You my friend are absolutely wrong! Calvin Pryor is a beast and will destroy anything that comes across his way. I think you're mistaking his play for being out of position at times due to him playing FS (which isn't his natural position). The kid is only 22 yrs. old and had 60 tackles his rookie season. Not to shabby for a guy not playing his natural position, especially in a dysfunctional secondary. Besides that, he's far from "tiny" and a guy that "can't tackle." Bring in McCourty and we may have ourselves one of the best safety duo's in the league!
That's a bit of a stretch but he has the potential to be a quality safety in this league if he doesn't have to worry about the complexity of Rex's defense. The biggest positive about the kid is that he always seems to find his way around the ball. His biggest weakness highlighted by the Jordy Nelson touchdown play is his poor angles which is correctable with good coaching and drills that Bowles will hopefully bring. He also seems to be a bit of an ankle biter (diving at ball carriers legs and ankles) but that can certainly work in this league if he refines into a solid one on one tackler (instead of aforementioned ankle biting) in space and avoids the concussion bug. That tackling form does help to create bigger losses in the backfield and on larger ball carriers like Lynch, Blount and Lacy.
I know we have money to burn but realistically, what's he worth? What's a blowout, million+ a year better than anyone else deal look like for him?
This FS position is a top need for us. McCourty is a very good FS. He would help Pryors success since we will get to move him to SS. This is a no brainer. We have to get this guy. I think if we get him, we are a lot closer to being a relevant, competing team again. Not to mention we will be taking him from the Pats.
I disagree, sorry. I watched Pryor play this year. I would defy you to name a single -- just one -- big play Pryor made all year during the regular season. If you ask me to name the bad plays, here are three. 1) getting dusted trying to tackle Jordy Nelson 2) letting Jeremy Ross blow by him and then not even running hard while the ball is in the air 3) "it's so f--ing easy" for Julius Thomas Pryor wasn't even the top safety in the draft. Clinton-Dix, on the other hand, is a playmaker. He gets blamed for that 2-point conversion in the playoff game, but unlike Pryor, the guy made his share of game-changing plays in 2014. He had 2 INTs with 53 return yards in that very same game, the playoff game in Seattle. http://www.detroitlions.com/media-c...ouchdown/8c8cc343-e35b-41e8-8de4-3d65c7d65ddb
I think people are saying, myself included, that playing FS is not actually his ideal position. Moreover, playing for a "coaching for his job" Rex Ryan did no favors for any players in the secondary. The constant blitzing, especially for a young player playing out of position was particularly destructive to his development and play-making abilities.
The Patriots cannot afford to keep both Revis and McCourty in their secondary. so they've made their decision. one guy shut down half the field. the other guy played 30+ yds deep, not allowing anything to get behind him on the other half of the field. it's obvious which position is more replaceable for them. i just hope we sign the more impactful player in Revis, and someone else overspends for McCourty now that he'll hit the market. Then the Patriots will be left with neither. that's my ideal scenario.......but i think the Pats will do what it takes to retain Revis.
Your viewpoint is just dim, no two ways about it. Was I happy with Pryor's rookie year, especially when you compare it to Clinton-Dix's? Of course not, but whatever bs you've concocted in your head to tell yourself that the kid can't do ANYTHING right is pathetic. Pryor was very reliable when he stepped up in run support. He laid a number of big league hits on RBs that made it to the second level throughout the year and had some good hard tackles on WRs over the middle as well. He's going to be an enforcer in this league no question about that, the question is how competent will or won't he learn to become in pass pro. Pryor's floor is something like a Laron Landry with smaller hits better mobility and less injury concerns, but he could easily become more than that. Just because people would rather have Clinton-Dix if the draft could be done over now doesn't mean you mentally flush the actual guy that was drafted down the toilet before he has a chance to develop skills in the pros. Sad SOJF logic.
Also McCourty, Pryor, Milliner, and some competent FA CB is an awesome backfield to look forward to if Milliner stays healthy and Pryor keeps progressing. Very scary unit when combined with the DL and a hypothetical modestly improved LB corps. So yeah, I think McCourty should be the primary FA target
Totally agree, and I think Bowles will put him in his natural position and make him a centerpiece of our new secondary patrolling the middle. A young Laron Landry with more speed.
Name one big play he made all year. You can't. Laron Landry is built like Mr. America. It's one thing to land a big hit against a UConn RB. It's another to do it in the NFL. I'm not saying he can't improve or play better than his rookie year, but come on. His "floor" is more like being out of the league in 3 years. I am a Jet fan. I wish Pryor was all world. He's not. I'm just calling it as I see it. Call me "dim" or whatever you want. It's my honest view, and it's backed up by the game tape. Even Rex Ryan, who is as ridiculously optimistic a coach as there is in the league when it comes to his defensive guys, basically admitted Pryor was a disappointment and that he accomplished nothing last year. If Pryor shows something next year, I would gladly acknowledge it.
I was not surprised the Pats didn't franchise him. They were never gonna pay him $9.5mil to play that position. Unless he is willing to leave money on the table he is most likely gone. Can't blame him. This really fell perfectly for him to get his career contract. Somebody is gonna go the extra mile and offer him 4 or 5 years at something in the $9 mil per with $25+ guaranteed. If the Pats are going to extend themselves, it will be for Revis, and even then he may go for the biggest payday. I'd guess that he's be inclined to stay in NE if the money is very close. He is definitely a top free safety and really head and shoulders above any other FA's at his position.
that's exactly what i've been saying. as good as Mccourty is, he wasn't asked to do all that much in NE's D. play 30+ yds deep, and don't let anything behind him on the half of field Revis wasn't manning. they can replace that, even if its a downgrade. they cannot replace Revis. it was a no brainer really for the Pats. they will go full press to keep Revis now. and by the same token, while i'd love McCourty with the Jets, i don't think he brings 9M per impact to the table. he's not really a ball hawker big play guy, although he was never really asked to be that guy on NE. maybe he can be, i just wouldn't bet that chunk of change on it. whether i'm Pats or Jets mgmt, Revis would be my target. costs more, but provides a lot more impact and flexibility for the overall D.
Cut Harvin and spend around 20M$ on Revis and McCourty... Secondary is fixed. 40M$ to fix other issues.
