If that's the case then no deal. I don't think Jackson if cut by Phila will get over Decker money. I don't think he'll even get that. IMO the Eagles are trying to play it cool so they can get a draft pick for him in return. I could be wrong and I probably am. Just a guess.
Oh he will Def get over Decker money,This is why we can't let him become a free agent and let the Raiders offer him 11mill a year
Yep, building through the draft gives you young players on the rise. It also gives you busts on the way out but it does have upside potential built into the picture in a big way. Veteran free agents are more WYSIWYG and then decline from there giving the overall roster a downside slant n direct proportion to the number of vet FA's you have chosen to put into the mix in prominent positions. A team that is using 7 draft picks well every year will rise over time until they become quite strong. A team signing 2 or 3 vet FA's to fill holes every year will decline over time until the roster is hollow. New Jets meet the old Jets.
Because we should beat the Raiders to the players they covet? Think about it. They're the Raiders for a reason.
I hope the Jets stay on this path - the righteous path. My memory maybe a little cloudy in regards to this but, have the Jets tried (and actually stayed) with this particular approach ever? I would assume no because no coach / GM has been around long enough
No it won't be just the Raiders offeering money his way if he becomes a free agent.I'm more worried about the Patriots getting him.If he ends up on the Pats they would have enough to win another Lombardi Trophy.Dsean Jackson and Brady would be a tough combo to stop
Again sheer speculation on my part I'm not going to bet my house on it or even five cents. But Jackson if cut won't get Decker dough. And Belichick doesn't pay skill players over seven mil per season. Even Brady signed a cheaper contract for something like 8 but fully guaranteed. Even Gronk 8 years for 55 13 plus guaranteed. He's not going to give more to DJ than him.
You have to use the picks well though. Based on the Jets draft history it's fair to say that they have often had a must-have player on their list in round 1 and failed to get the BPA as a result. Kyle Brady is a perfect example of this as are Santana Moss and Dewayne Robertson.
I'd have agreed with this before the Revis signing. Now I'm not so sure. Brady took a real step backwards last year in terms of overall performance. Belichik may think he has just this one last year to get that 4th ring. If that's the case he'll do whatever he needs to do in order to set that up. The Broncos loading up under similar pressure has to be giving him real agita at this point.
There's nothing the Jets can do at this point to prevent the Pats from loading up and giving it their best shot next year. We're not ready to compete with them at the highest level yet and making moves to try to weaken them that also weaken us long term is just a recipe for staying under them year after year. The Jets should be aiming to break out the year that the Pats really begin to crumble. That's how you flip the situation and put them down for a decade.
Brady's contract has 33 million in guaranteed money. There are also provisos giving him more guarantees if he's on the roster the last few years of the contract against injury. As for Revis. I think he was given this deal by BB (and only a one year contract) because Belichick considers him a HOF player. And not a player whose good but interchangeable with other players in the league. If healthy he makes Richard Sherman look like a junior college transfer.
[quote="NewYorkEveryThing, post: 2971192, member: 17939" Not 1 SB winning team spent big $$$ on WR and I think Decker was a good contract so drafting should be the way to go.[/quote] Well except for the defending SB champs who spent both big money as well as big draft pick compensation for Harvin. I don't think anyone is suggesting sending the farm for DJax but at the right price it seems like a no brainer to me. The guy is in his prime, fits our O like a glove and is the gamebreamer this offense has lacked in what seems to be forever. People keep mentioning that he is another Holmes. First of all, at his best he is a much better playmaker than Holmes ever was at his best. Forgetting about that though, people seem to forget that we were at our best as a team when Holmes was at his best. You can't fill your team with choir boys and expect to compete. By all accounts, Jackson seems like a decent enough teammate and is highly competitive. He may be a bit of a diva as most top WRs are. I'm all for building through the draft which we can still do but when the opportunity presents itself to bring in a gamebreaker for one mid pick it needs to be done. The guy changes the dynamic of the entire O the second he walks through the door.
The way this works is you get down to the 18 and the BPA and a guy the Jets need are really close in overall value and the Jets decide to go get the guy they need at 97 cents on the dollar. The way the Jets have done it often in the past is either to trade up for a guy they need, giving up huge value in the process, or to grab the guy they need on their pick even though he's not within 10% of the BPA in terms of value. The real problem with the Jets over the last 20 years is they just don't do a good job of evaluating talent and they over rate players at positions of need on top of that. Some times they over-rate players at positions they don't need but they just can't get the guy they're fixated on out of their heads and they take him anyway. The Bryan Thomas pick was a perfect example of this. Bryan Thomas looked for all the world like a decent weak-side DE prospect who would bring some real pass pressure from the outside. The Jets already had a better version of this in John Abraham. The Jets also had a pretty good young strong-side DE in Shaun Ellis. They were set for 5 years with that pairing. Then they fell in love with Bryan Thomas and decided they would draft him in order to move John Abraham to the strong-side (!!!) and Shaun Ellis to DT. They did all this with a pair of journeymen safeties starting for them and Ed Reed available in the draft. Charles Grant, a more natural strong-side DE was still there, which would have left JAbe on the weak-side where he belonged. Napoleon Harris was still there and both the Jets inside linebackers were aging. It was just a perfect example of a clusterfuck pick in which the Jets fell in love with a guy and did stupid things as a result. There have been a few of these recently.
Gronkowski signed a 6 year extension for $54M, that is $9M a year avg and was done 2 years ago. As the cap goes up so do the player salaries. Not sure what reasoning there could be for thinking Jackson wouldn't command more than Decker. I like the Decker signing and think he is a good addition to the team but Jackson put up better numbers in an obviously less superior passing attack with Philly than Decker did with the Broncos.
I've said this in another thread.. if we were to acquire another wr via fa/trade.. we would be the only team in the nfl with both our starting wr are from other teams..dont know if that makes a difference or not but it just kinda shows that we don't know what we are doing in regards to drafting starting wrs.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/salary-cap-notes-team-updates-091800294--nfl.html An interesting article about the teams that have made the conference championship games the last 5 years. Of the 440 players to play on those teams, here is the breakdown of how they were acquired: 318 of the 440 players (72.3%) were either initially drafted or signed as an undrafted free agent by their respective team. 60 of the 440 players (14.3%) were either initially acquired through a trade or via free agent contract’s worth less than $2 million annually. 32 of the 440 players (7.3%) were initially acquired via “substantial” free agent contracts—deals that were a minimum of 3 years in length and worth at least $15 million in total money Obviously there are still 30 players not accounted for in those categories, but the point still remains that big free agent signings and trades are a minimal part of building a winning team. the question becomes when do you make those big free agent signings and trades, before or after you have built up the majority of your team through the draft and the acquisition of lower priced talent? I think it is after. Once you establish a strong core of players you can then add high-priced players to make up that last difference that is what is needed to be a championship team.
That's great and I agree with you but, so does everyone else's young players though. For every Richardson, Milliner, and Harrison there is a Sanchez, Stephen Hill, and Vlad Duccasse. People act like its a given that all those players will improve. Not saying they wont. Some will, but some will just be what they are. That's why smart teams know how to pick and choose the right players in FA to help those young players out and fill a hole or two here and there. A team can be better then they were the year before and have the same or even a worse record
Am I the only person who believes Stephen Hill will be servicable? He will be a #4 WR and a Damn good one. Kerley Will be a FINE slot WR. And Decker will be a NICE #2.....still looking for our #1 Guy, top guy, It has to be Desean jackson.
