Derek Jeter...

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  1. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    He's hot and that's all that matters. HAH, the lament of male baseball fans everywhere, watch all of you get your boxers in a bunch. 10, 9, 8, 7,... :lol:
     
  2. kinghenry89

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    Shut up with your logic. We don't take kindly to it around here.
     
  3. boomer

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    I dont know if you're a Mets fan or not, but in case you are, let me explain how the postseason works. All 30 teams play 162 games. The top four teams in their respected leagues then advance to the playoffs. The playoffs, aka the postseason, is usually more challengling because the teams participating are usually pretty good. Because of the higher competition, one's stats may decline a bit facing guys like Curt Schilling rather than Darrell May.

    And if you read what I first said, "clutch" isnt determined by stats. It is simply coming up big when it matters most. Now whatever useless stat or biased opinion you pull out of your ass can never take away what Jeter has accomplished.
     
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  4. Exit 117

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    You're a disgrace to Yankee fans, and baseball fans in general. You're easily one of the worse Yankee trolls here, if not the worst.
     
  5. boomer

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    And what makes you say that.
     
  6. Exit 117

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    I'm not falling for that.
     
  7. boomer

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    Falling for what? I just want to know what makes you think I'm a troll. Because if you knew anything, or bothered to search my previous posts, you'd see many occasions where I stood up for the Mets against jerks who just wanted to start something for no reason. I may have taken some shots at your team here and there, some joking and some not, but it was just in retaliation for the few unrational asshole Met fans here that would hate Jesus Christ himself if he played for the Yankees. So I advise you to get your facts straight before you label me a "disgrace" to baseball fans in general.
     
  8. Exit 117

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    You're a biased tool and an ass. Just go to the David Wright thread and look at your comments calling US biased when you had no idea what we were even talking about, and called us idiots.
     
  9. MisterMoss

    MisterMoss PRO-American

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    Exit, I don't quite know what you're talking about, but boomer was right on with the statement he made a couple of posts above in regards to pitching in the postseason.
     
  10. Exit 117

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    He was, but this:

    I dont know if you're a Mets fan or not, but in case you are, let me explain how the postseason works. All 30 teams play 162 games. The top four teams in their respected leagues then advance to the playoffs.

    part was unnecessary and typical asshole Yankee fan bullshit.
     
  11. MisterMoss

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    aww come on, he was just having fun with you guys. We all take shots at each other's teams all the time like that :breakdance:
     
  12. Exit 117

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    Nevermind. Screw the Yankees.
     
  13. MisterMoss

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    Go Mets! :breakdance:
     
  14. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Can I ask you what this "typical Yankee fan" bullshit is? Because from where I sit,It's the Met fans in Shea with "Yankees suck" chants when they're playing the freakin Nationals. Met fans obsession with the Yankees leaves Met fans looking like the "Typical" this and that you people speak of to everyone but yourselves.
     
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  15. Exit 117

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    When you brought up that "Yankees suck" chant in the Nats @ Mets game thread, I don't know if you ever went back, but Howie Rose had said that a Yankees fan stood up and waved a Yankees hat around and said Mets suck. Mr. Met then got up, pointed at him, and gave him a thumbs down, followed by the boos and "Yankees suck" chants. It was deserved; it's not like it was just random.

    And I said the "typical" Yankee fan, not all. Don't act so guilty.
     
  16. poiu

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    So instead of using stats what should we use to determine clutchness? Our biased opinions? Because, it would seem to me that listening to what Jeter's performance SEEMS to yankees fans would be worthless for the same reason that it would be worthless for me to say what his performances appears to be for me.
     
  17. poiu

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    I understand and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the arguement that Jeter performes worse in the clutch. It's just that if Jeter is in fact the clutchest, most valueable, one batter that you'd want in the bottom of the ninth, I would think his stats wouldn't go down.

    Having your stats in the postseason be comparable to your regular season stats is impressive, but the clutchest players in the league do better in the postseason.
     
  18. MisterMoss

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    A lot of it is situational. There aren't too many players who have better stats in the postseason than in the regular season.

    Carlos Beltran's postseason BA is 0.435, but he's not someone Mets fans have a lot of faith in.
    Hideki Matsui has a 0.319 BA, better than his 0.297 regular season average. Nevertheless, I would take him in certain spots in the post season.
    A-Rod's playoff BA is .305, and 0.315 in the LCS. His regular season average is .307, but Yankee fans don't have any faith in him to come through in big spots.
    Mark Grace has a 0.515 BA in the LCS, the highest of anyone with a significany sample. But his name never comes up among "clutch players."


    Stats just don't tell the whole story
     
  19. ButtleMan

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    Mark Grace carried the 89 Cubs in the LCS against the Giants. Never would have been close without him.
    I will always remember him and Will Clark just trying to out do eachother with each at bat and play at first.
     
  20. ShadeTree#55

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    George Brett is the most clutch postseason player I have ever seen play. His stats more than back it up.

    Its say clutch on his HOF plaque.
     

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