Derek Jeter Voted Most Overrated By Peers

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  1. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    uhhh he has a better ERA and more strikeouts than any pitcher on the yanks....i havent been following his starts but his record indicates to me that he isnt getting much run support.
     
  2. Yisman

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    yeah, he was definitely a wreck in the AL. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Jaded Green

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    His Era is skewed, he is 7-6, and has not pitched great this year.

    He already gave up 15 HR's coming last year were he gave up more than any AL pitcher, and is not worth what they are paying him, and yesterday he threw Wright under the bus, siting a routine play.

    He gave up a grand slam to a AL pitcher, who was up to bat for the 8th time in career. Johan, wake up getting the pitcher out is a routine play. I am glad the Yankees stayed away.
     
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    I said he WOULD be a wreck in the AL, learn how to read.

    Last season he was 17-16, and gave up more HR's than anybody in the AL with like 34.

    How good did he look against that AL PITCHER yesterday???
     
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    I wasn't complaining. About you, anyway.
     
  6. Yisman

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    You're stupid.

    Yeah, of course he would be a wreck in the AL, because he was so bad when dominating the AL for the last 6 years.
     
  7. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    I like it better before this guy discovered the Baseball Forum.
     
  8. Jaded Green

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    He dominated last year, what are you smoking???

    He gave up more homers than anybody and was 17-16, he has been going down hill, and right now he is not earning that huge contract, he held the Mets hostage for.

    You're right giving up grand slams to AL pitchers, is total domination. You can have him, he is dominating, like your girl cindy did at the awards ceremonies. :up:
     
  9. Jaded Green

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    WWWHHHHAAAAA!!!
     
  10. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    You are a total moron. You do realize he was 7th in the AL in ERA, 3rd in K/9 and H/9, 1st in WHIP, 2nd in Ks, 4th in K/BB, he pitched almost 220 innings and opponents hit just .273 against him, best in the AL and 1 point higher than Peavy for the ML lead right?
     
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    Regardless, it was a down year for him was it not?

    Did the Mets bring him in at 140 million to be 7-6 right now and give up grand slams to AL pitchers.

    He is not earning that contract, I don't care what his other stats are, he was 17-16 last season and he is 7-6 now.

    In the AL he would be worse and worth no where near is contract.

    How has he impacted the Mets, they have been .500 or below all year, when was the last time he got a win? 5 starts ago???

    Why the hell are you talking about last year anyway, it's this year and he is not Dominating squat in th NL.

    I'm the moron, are you suggesting the hitting is better in the NL, please he would be worse in the AL, and he's 7-6 no.

    The Mets are garbage, get used to it, oh wait how could you not be already.
     
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    Did the Yankees pay Jeter 20 Million to have a .379 Slugging %?
     
  13. Jaded Green

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    Absolutely Not!!!
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    When did I ignore the few poor series he's had? I simply stated that even when struggling he stepped up in big spots unlike ARod who has been useless since Game 5 of the '04 ALCS.

    What are you talking about? Jeter started a rally that won another AL pennant. ARod has ONE RBI and just 8 hits w/ 4 runs scored since Game 5 of the '04 ALCS. How is this comparable? Jeter's not an RBI guy and he has 7 since '05 while ARod has ONE.

    The guy's #s speak for themselves, you want to dwell on a few bad series but his postseason career has been a great one. I am not just talking about those few big moments during poor series, his postseason career overall has been great despite his bad performance last October. W/ Jeter it's an
    aberration while w/ ARod it's been a trend.

    1996-2000: hit under .300 4 times in 13 series
    2001-2007: hit under .300 5 times in 12 series

    Is this that big of a difference?

    1996-2000: 79-244, .324, 10 doubles, 3 Triples, 8 HRs, 21 RBI, 48 runs
    2001-2007: 74-251, .295, 12 doubles, 0 Triples, 9 HRs, 28 RBI, 37 runs

    The biggest difference is the guys behind him aren't knocking him in.
     
  15. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    You can't judge a multi-year contract less than a year into it, and a pitcher's win/loss record is by far the WORST stat to judge a pitcher on.

    Probably, because the AL hitting is better, but also he'd be more familiar with the hitters and possibly more comfortable. There's no way to tell.

    Why? Because you said "He dominated last year, what are you smoking???".

    I was responding to that. Yes, he DID dominate last year based on every meaningful stat to measure a pitcher's performance.

    I could care less. Apparently you aren't paying attention or you can't see sigs or something, but I'm a Red Sox fan.
     
  16. Jaded Green

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    I'm not judging the his worth over the life of the contract, but as of right now, he leaves allot to be desired.

    Last year he began to show he was slowing down, and a 17-16 record giving up th most home runs is not Dominating the AL, Domination would me he lead in all categories, not being last in HR's against and 1 game over .500 sorry.

    Must of over looked the hideous sig, not sorry. :)
     
  17. Yisman

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    more trolling from you.
     
  18. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    It doesn't make me jealous. I like to make fun of the guy. He's right there on my turd list with Elvis Grbac, Kordell Stewart, One Third Glavine, Wade Boggs, and Roger Clemens (and some other guys).
     
  19. Yisman

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    Now you're changing your argument. :rolleyes: It wasn't about whether he's dominating right now.

    Yep, you're a troll. A stupid troll, at that.
     
  20. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    I didn't look it up before, but looking now he's not even bad this year. He's 5th in ERA, 3rd in Ks, 4th in IP, 4th in K/BB. He's giving up more baserunners this year, but it's not horrible. Admittedly I haven't seen him pitch at all, but most of his numbers are ok.
     

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