Democratic Nomination Thread

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  1. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    Who's your favorite?
     
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    So awesome, Larry David, Alec Baldwin and SNL killed it!
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    of the Democratic candidates I like Webb. Of the Republicans I like Paul.

    neither will win. I just hope we don't end up with a handful of the candidates.
     
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  4. Br4d

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    Clinton vs Trump would be the big seller for the media so I am guessing that's where we're headed. The GOP will probably do everything they can to keep The Donald from getting nominated but there's a lot of grass roots folks who are as interested in knocking off the GOP establishment as in electing the next President. The act is getting kind of tired and Bush III is viewed with the same hostility as Jaws III was.
     
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    Don't you know...Webb needs more time. Someone give the man more time!
     
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    Webb is very much about fairness. It's never been clear that he's built for the rough and tumble brawling with sand in the eyes and dirty tricks that is the reality of politics. I saw his pushing back at the debate as a positive sign that he recognizes that he's going to have to fight for every inch in this race.
     
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    Here is a Vox.com article about Biden and his ability to work across the aisle. http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9571573/biden-hillary-republicans So here's a guy who just might be able to accomplish things in terms of compromise to get serious bi-partisan legislation passed like an infrastructure bill. He is not hated by many of the Repub lawmakers. But he's 72 kind of hard to start a newer and tougher career at that age.
     
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    Biden isn't going to get much done with a Republican House. The only way the government moves between now and 2018 is if Clinton gets elected with a Democratic House or close to it or if the Republicans win the election. Both seem equally improbable at the moment.

    If the Republicans get elected the government will start moving again because it has only ground to a halt because of their desire to get elected again, a questionable tactic that I don't think will manage the trick.
     
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    I don't think Biden is going to win but he could work with the Repub moderates. The GOP is going to have to decide the direction they are going. The bottom line is: most of the American electorate is not as far right as the Tea Party is. And that includes Republican voters.
     
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    There are very few Republican moderates left.

    If Clinton or Biden (or Webb) wins the election I expect Peter King and a handful of Republicans to defect to the Democratic party after the election. They'll be the last remaining moderates in the Republican caucus and they won't have any pull at all at that point. Boehner's resignation was a watershed for the GOP. They just haven't had the other shoe drop yet. It will.
     
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    The Freedom caucus consists of about 40-50 Congress people. They are in the extreme minority. This out of 247 Repubs in Congress. So they can influence votes for example the vote for a new Speaker. They do have deep pockets behind them (the Koch Bros, etc) and that's where most of their influence and power comes from.
     
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    why do you have such a fixation with the Koch Brothers? Every time there is a discussion of republicans you get into that. fuckin every politician sitting on either side of the aisle has their pockets lined with special interests. Hillary Clinton is one of the worst actually
     
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    The Koch brothers are like George Soros, deep pockets, lots of money spread around and not shy about their involvement. They're going to be a figurehead for people on both sides pointing at conservative PAC's and special interests. I suspect they want it that way.

    You don't get clout in a closet.
     
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    I get that but they are just one of many on other side of the aisle. it seems pretty dumb to just default point to them all the time.
     
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    Two rules on that: first is that you have to say something seven times before the average person really gets it. Second, if you don't really know all that much about the subject you're going to fixate on the thing everybody is saying.
     
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    I mentioned the Koch Brothers only because we're talking about the Tea Party movement in Congress and according to many reports the Kochs basically are financially behind the Tea Party movement and maybe even helped to start it. Here is a Huffington Post article about it, a very liberal source admitted http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/study-confirms-tea-party-_b_2663125.html. So imo when you talk about the Freedom Caucus and the Tea Party movement they are strongly related to the Kochs and others and should be mentioned. If you disagree ok with me.
     
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    Here's another Vox article.

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    Save your breath. Unless Biden pulls off a 9th inning Roy Hobbs, the Wasserman-Schultz orchestrated coronation's a fait accompli. So get in line, hail "God Save the Queen" and gain comfort in the knowledge that our next president (just like the preceeding 43) likes ye ol' flapper snapper. It's a beautiful thing.
     
  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    For the Bernie supporters, I assume there are some on this board, please take the time to investigate the economy in Denmark. I mean really look into it honestly and don't cherry pick a few things here or there. That's what he thinks America should be like.
     
  19. pclfan

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    Anderson Cooper made a good point during the debate. He said how can you compare a country like Denmark with 5 million people to the US and 300 million. It's apples and oranges. I think if Bernie were elected he'd have to adapt his agenda to reality. He wouldn't even get support for his initiatives among the Dems.
     
  20. nyjetsmets89

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    This is just a sad election. Clinton vs Trump? Is Trump our new President? None of the other Repubs are competent enough to get the bid and Trump isn't competent himself!
     

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