Wow. NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Month (November) went to Richardson NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Month (December) goes to Milliner Good job Idzik and Rex!
The trend is upward, and Milliner ended the season not looking like a bust by any means. Ftr I never said I thought he was and am happy to see him showing apparent development going forward. Given Cromartie's difficult situation it was really imperative that the pick on Milliner not prove to be a waste. This is about as key to the team as any other developments over the course of the season.
I think most teams would take him at 9 in a minute. Like Qb Cb is a learning experience. You are exposed and if you make a mistake everyone knows about it. I like the fact that Rex benched him. It helped him and the team. He should done that with Mark. To me his no. 1 mistake as the HC of the Jets is first no competition for the Jets starting Qb job. And never benching Sanchez. They say that Rex nas improved as a head coach. I don't know about that but if you bench players esp young ones who play horribly (he did bench Geno) it's smart.
I am thinking adding a few play makers for him to throw to plus the added factor of teams knowing he can run the ball opens things up next season. I was never down on either Milliner or Smith but never really sure if either would work out. They have both given some some hope to those of us that were on the fence about how we thought they would work out.
The kid was awful almost the entire season. He played OK for a couple games, against a couple of bad QB's. Now everyone is trying to make it seem he's "trending up"? OK At no point during that entire season did he look like a top ten pick. This secondary is a big problem and he has a lot do to with that.
Absolutely disagree ... He WAS horrible for the first 10 games of the season, and improved immensely the last 6, the last month he was easily a top 10 pick... The NFL has acknowledged Dee’s improved play once again, naming him the AFC defensive rookie of the month for the month of December. Dee is the first player to record back to back games with five or more passes defended since 1994.
This is quite simply too pessimistic an outlook. He's not that bad. He's learning and made several good plays toward the end of the season.
FWIW Milliner had the same number of passes defended and INT's as Revis did his rookie year. I'm not saying Milliner = Revis. I'm saying being a rookie CB in the NFL isn't easy.
I've been shi**ing on him all year but hell I rather him end the season on a high note than end it playing 3 crappy games in a row
I understand your hating running QBs, but totally disagree. I LOVE running QBs. Unless things change dramatically in the NFL, I don't want the Jets to EVER have another QB that doesn't have the ability to run. It not only adds excitement to the game, but much more importantly it helps sustain drives, gives the opposing D another dimension to have to consider/defend, and can be a real weapon. Look at what Geno's running did for the team. Look at what Cam Newton's running has done for the Panthers. Now do I want Geno running the ball frequently? No. He isn't built like Cam Newton and can't take the punishment that Cam can. That said, he may be faster than Cam, and maybe as elusive. As long as he's smart enough to slide or run out of bounds and tries to limit the number of hits he takes, I think he'll be fine. I want MM to have some designed runs for Geno, just enough to remind opposing Ds that he can do that and keep them honest. Hopefully that will help slow down their pass rush, and also prevent them from keeping 8-9 in the box.
DAMN this is very impressive. If we can just do this one more time on Offense. Originally Posted by Axel3419 View Post Wow. NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Month (November) went to Richardson NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Month (December) goes to Milliner Good job Idzik and Rex!
Seriously? Have you been watching the NFL for very long at all? If you have, then you should know that it takes rookie CBs time to learn and develop. They don't come in and dominate from the start. Revis didn't, either. Just because he struggled early doesn't mean that he's "awful" and didn't improve. I guess you think you know more than the NFL. After all they named him Defensive Rookie of the Month for December. Face it, you're wrong. You're being too impatient. I don't know what your expectations for him or the team were this year, but it sounds as if they were too high. It takes most rookies time to adjust to the NFL; to learn their new systems; improve their fundamentals, strength and conditioning, and work habits; learn how to break down film of opponents, etc.
My problem with him is that he does seem to take unnecessary hits from time to time. I appreciate the toughness in trying to get the extra yards but if he gets injured that costs his team far more than an extra yard or two in a single drive in a single game. He also seems to let up while getting near the sidelines which is why he gets shoved and hit out of bounds as much as he does. Maybe that's intentional to draw flags (he had that one dramatic swan dive in one of the more recent games) but I don't like it as it could lead to injury. Just hurry up and get out of bounds and move on.
Some people in here can't do what you just said. They rather have him fail so that they can be right. They can't just admit they were wrong and be happy that he, a player on the team we all root for, did good this last month.
Tom Brady is a pocket passer that can't scramble to score 7 or even move the chains. Peyton Manning is a pocket passer that can't scramble to score 7 or even move the chains. Geno Smith is a pocket passer that CAN scramble to score 7 or move the chains. I got no problem with that.
Slightly OT: It hurts to say this, but I actually think Tom Brady is actually a pretty efficient short yardage running QB. Older article here but, still relevant. "Tom Brady is 18/19 in his career on 4th-and-1 QB sneaks." Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-brady-is-amazing-at-qb-sneaks-2012-12#ixzz2pO72sL00
Brady is effective on sneaks, but I wouldn't classify a sneak as a real run or any measure of running ability.
No I actually have a very good understanding about the game. And when did I say anything about expectations? When did I say anything about him suking because he wasn't a dominant player? No actually I have a very good understanding of the struggles of rookies. Especially DB's. But he was awfule for more than 10 games! He had a decent few games. And even in those games he wasn't anywhere near great. He was ok! Period! You think your right because the NFL named him Defensive Rookie of the Month. Holy Shit that ends it. He was Defensive Rookie of the Month guys. Thats the end all be all! He was awful almost 90% of the year. Fact! You know how you know your wrong? Because ONLY JET FANS AGREE WITH YOU! NOBODY else agrees with you! No serious football mind thinks Dee played anything but bad this year. You just can't admit it because it means your stuck with a bad player for years to come. He could turn it around who knows? But he was awful this year. He was outplayed the entire year by almost every single DB that was drafted. In fact he was graded as one of the worst DB's in the entire game at one point. But lets forget about that because he played ok against some very average QB's.
