Dee Miliner...have I missed something?

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I think it's pretty safe to say Milliner is going to at least be good for us. He's not going to be a lock down corner like Revis but who the hell is in todays NFL? Hopefully he has more of a nack of coming up with the INT than Revis.
     
  2. Kerley Shuffle

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    If Milliner had held onto every ball that hit his hands he'd have 5 or 6 picks this year.
     
  3. TonyMaC

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    i've heard wilson is one hell of a nickelback though.


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    Milliner will be fine, I can't believe the morons that are pissed that he was doing poorly earlier on and now want to rag on him after he's improved and pretend that doesn't matter. its almost as if these things take time and players don't have to be all pro for all 16 games to be good contributors done the line.

    instant gratification takes its toll... he's a rookie in hard to grasp position thats already made strides, but because he was doing poorly earlier, nope bust move on.
     
  4. Br4d

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    He may be able to play in press coverage but there are only a half dozen good press corners in the NFL right now. Most of the CB's playing in press are hanging on by their fingertips on those downs and hoping things don't go poorly.

    It's better to ask your players to do the things they are really good at and when Milliner has the play in front of him and can peek the QB he is a scary defender.
     
  5. displacedfan

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    They also get away with holding and illegal contact more than your average corner letting them play better press coverage
     
  6. Br4d

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    And if they are a great CB they are almost never called for contact down the field.

    Not taking anything away from Darrelle Revis but his reputation is so strong that he gets away with keeping his hands on the receiver all the way down the field. He knows exactly what he can do without getting called and he pushes (literally) right up to that point. That's part of what makes him great.
     
  7. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    milliner gave plenty of cushion and then turned and chased and tried to get his hand in between the receivers rather than EVER looking back on the ball. that will turn into a shit ton of pi penalties. i guarantee you.

    its tough to get a guy who doesnt understand to play the ball at 22 years old to learn. thats a big fucking problem in my eyes. he plays it in front of him fine, but we arent running a cover 2.
     
  8. Jake

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    Encouraged by his last couple of weeks. A full offseason of technique and film will serve him well.
     
  9. legler82

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    He doesn't have to be good; he just can't be as bad as he was the first 3 quarters of the season. Once he gets the benefit a full off season, I don't think that will be a concern.
     
  10. legler82

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    Despite his horrendous play for most of this year a lot of the times he's actually done a pretty good job turning his head. What he has struggled with is sticking with his man in while doing so. There's been several instances this season when he turned his head and lost his man on those go routes. Today's game he played the man rather than turning his head. He has to learn to stack the WR so that he is free to turn and look for the ball w/o losing contact with the WR.
     
  11. Murrell2878

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    And he dropped several others throughout the year
     
  12. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    He also needs to do a better job getting his hips turned. Right now it's a little slow.
     
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    From PFF

    Now that's a good way to end the season.
     
  16. LongIslandBlitz

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    Millner was named afc player of week
     
  17. Jetaho

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    Maybe it's just a coincidence that Milliner started picking it up when Reed came in, and maybe it's not. Seeing Milliner and Reed sitting and talking on the bench Sunday made me remember that Reed's presence involves more than just mediocre play on the field. The dude is a champion and a true pro, and mentoring our young guys should pay some dividends. I can't see him returning, but I think he's provided great value to the team in his short time here.
     
  18. SeattleJet

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    BTW this is a great article about rookie class this year:

    "The Jets got the most out of their rookie class with 3,810 snaps, and they did it with two less draft picks than the Dolphins. That’s what happens when your 1st round picks Dee Milliner (747 snaps) and Sheldon Richardson (906), 2nd round pick Geno Smith (1,007), 3rd round pick Brian Winters (771) and 7th round pick Tommy Bohanon (379) all contribute as rookies."

    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...d-less-snaps-in-2013-than-the-miami-dolphins/
     
  19. hwismer

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    Jets' Dee Milliner named AFC Defensive Player of the Week

    FLORHAM PARK -- Dee Milliner capped his first season in the NFL with the best performance of his career. The cornerback intercepted a couple of passes Sunday against the Miami Dolphins and broke up five passes.

    After the season-ending victory, Rex Ryan praised Milliner. The Jets coach said the game validated his statement earlier in the year that by season's end Milliner would be the NFL's best first-year cornerback.

    Though Ryan's assertion is a matter of opinion, for one week at least, Milliner is the best defensive player in the AFC. The NFL recognized Milliner Tuesday with its Defensive Player of the Week award for his performance against the Dolphins.

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20...r_named_afc_defensive_player_of_the_week.html
     
  20. Jeti

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    I hope we do the same next year

    make sure the top rookies play from day 1
     

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