Dear Rex Ryan

That's the part I think is silly. The nucleus of our team is young. Our pro bowl O-lineman have a decade left in them. Our D-line got younger by a ton last off-season and I think this year we infuse some young talent at safety and OLB. Kerley's gonna be a stud, and this year's pretty deep for wideouts in the draft.

I'm not even going to include Nacho in this, because I know how some people feel about him, but where's the imminent collapse coming from?

We need a right tackle, a safety, an OLB, another solid wideout, a blocking tight end, and a stud free agent running back if one shows up in our lap (Matt Forte please...I can dream).

That sounds like a lot but it's not, and the lines are both solid, Whayne Hunter notwithstanding, and that's the most important thing, along with QB, to give you a 5+ year run in the hunt for the VLT.

 

I don't see this

Jets played hard
With a better game plan, they might've beaten GIants

If they win the last two games, a lot of the BS never surfaces
so I don't agree with your points

 

This season was IMO probably the worst 8-8 mediocre season I've ever seen... why? Glad you asked.

First, Ryan lost the locker room. He didn't even know he'd lost it, which makes it much worse. Adding insult to injury, instead of cutting bait with Holmes, he makes it Sanchez's responsibility to smooth things out with Holmes? WTF? Cut him. Re-assert some authority. Coddling Holmes is the worst thing Ryan could have done.

Secondly, Sanchez is NOT going to win a Super Bowl, he just does not have the leadership skills for it, or the arm. Compare Sanchez to Eli's numbers all you want, Eli never lost his team. Never ate hot dogs on the sideline, never sulked and sat alone on the bench under an umbrella. Sanchez simply lacks the dive and leadership a champion should have. Having said that, what makes it worse is that Sanchez will be given another 2, maybe even 3 years to fail again, and as a Jets fan, yes, that means five years of shit.

Thirdly, this FO and Ryan have repeated the same idiotic mistakes Hermie made. Ground and pound my ass, not when you don't invest in the offensive line, both in terms of starting quality O linemen, but zero depth as well. What happened when we had no one behind Kevin M? Ryan did the same, no one behind Mangold either, he is just lucky Mangold has been so durable.

Fourth, we still lack a pass rusher, a disrupter. How sad is it our best pass rusher was a bust for Buffalo, came here, got cut, and returned to be the best pass rusher we have?

Fifth, you create a collection of criminals and idiots like B Edwards, Holmes and Burress and expect what? To have a cohesive team that can stick together and go all the way? LMAO.

Lastly... I still think Ryan fatally injured his career as a coach with the moronic foot fetish videos. I don't care if he and his wife are perv swingers, but to tape that shit? Sure, that's a general I want to go into battle with.

So... yes, I think we are looking at a long term rebuild, made worse because we haven't given up on these idiots yet. Two more years of Sanchez, Ryan, Tannenbaum et al. Get rid of the locker room leaders, bring in druggies and criminals, is it any wonder we collapsed as a team? Jones, Ellis, Cotchery (OK, Ellis had his one mistake too) but collect turds and that's what you get... shit.

 

Here you go. Rex is done with predictions.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...ady-for-next-season-but-done-with-predictions

Everybody happy now?

 

Worst season ever?yea it was a bad season,but the Farve season was the worst,we were 8-5 and had the 6th seed then it all fell apart ,I don't blame Rex he isn't coaching children he is coaching grown fucking men who can make decisions (Holmes)I blame Tanny more then anyone for getting rid of all the players that made us great.Go back and watch Hard Knocks and look at all the clips of locker room speaches where players like woody,jenkins and t rich step up and lead the team.Tanny destroyed this team and should be fired,Getting rid of Cotch,Edwards,Smith,Ellis,Woody,T-Rich,Taylor,Lowery for guys like Holmes, fresh out of prison 34 year old Buress,and washed up 37 year old D Mason, so don't blame Rex,Tanny made the decison to get rid of the guys that made us a team

 

I disagree with a lot of what you said but this is spot on. Herm was king of scrapping lineman and bringin in some scrub to replace them. Mangini did it right by building up the line. The last two years we have not invested at all in the o-line and that has to change this offseason. We need depth and a RT. I could live with slausson another year as long as we have some depth to fall back on.

 

Silly? It might be silly to say I am certain the Jets are on a downward trend, but to say one is not concerned that that might be the case sounds to me like a severe case of rose colored glasses homerism. Even if one agrees with your post about the list being not all that long, thinking this team will be right back in it next year assumes too much.

First of all it assumes that the FO will make those moves and get good people in there, which on past efforts is a questionable assumption. For example they thought the move from Edwards to Burress was smart, and that Mason would take Cotch's place. Lucky for them Kerley started coming along, as later did even Turner. Ftr I hardly think it silly to wonder whether the FO will get this part of it done.

Then there's the question of what Rex and the CS do about the locker room atmosphere, particularly in light of some of the contracts, such as Holmes's, that seem to limit options. Rex has no track record with this sort of thing, so how do you predict he will handle it all?

Then there's the question what to do about Sanchez, and whether he will step it up. Again, it would be silly to assume that MS will be much better this coming year.

Wahoo,

Yep, if MS continues his mediocre play, and the Jets let another year go by without solidifying their Qb position, the 8-8 record may prove to be the new ceiling, and not floor.

 

I doubt it. Most people here will ignore this and a new Rex Ryan thread will be up within a week rehashing everything that's already been done to death on here. Can't we like make an official butthurt crybaby thread for people to post this animosity. People need to get over it already. Schotty is gone and that makes me happy. If it took an 8-8 mediocre season to do that, then so be it. I really don't want that guy holding back of offense any longer. I fear if we made the playoffs and maybe won a game, he wouldn't have gotten axed and he'd be back next year with the same garbage plaguing our team again. If this 8-8 season causes a SB winning season within the next couple years it will be well worth it. Also it is making Rex Ryan develop as a coach and wake up a little bit, which is a good thing.

 

? It would be silly to assume that, even though he's improved most of his stats every year in the league? You really think with a better receiving core and a fixed offensive line, and easier system, that he'll do worse next year? Maybe the solution for you is to root for the Giants. You have to give him one more year. I sense next year is a breakout year.

 

When I said "silly" I was talking about (over)reactions on this board in general as of late, not you specifically.

And I never said I'm not concerned. There are definite holes that need addressing, and I listed them. They need to get filled, but there's not twenty of them.

And I do have confidence that they can get it done. Look at what you just listed:

1)Braylon was awful this year and would have cost us specifically a lot more to resign than what he got once he got out on the open market. Did Plax light the world on fire? Hardly, but he was good in the red-zone, our biggest area of improvement.

2)Cotch wanted out. Period. Like we needed MORE locker room issues.

3)You can't say they "got lucky" that Kerely doesn't suck. They drafted him. They get blame, they get credit too. Same with Turner.

I'm not suddenly going to throw Tanny and the whole FO under the bus for one (semi)crappy season. Nor am I going to assume that Rex now has forever lost his ability to control a locker room.

I certainly think there's issues, but there's room between thinking we're gonna win it all no matter what next year and thinking we're gonna go 5-11 for the next 4 years.

 

it's the nfl where a productive offseason and good draft can turn things around within a year. that said a fresh start and a clean slate will go a long way for this team. everything that could go wrong went wrong last season, i doubt that happens again.

that said fuck this past super bowl, rex and kyle williams deserve giants super bowl rings in both of their roles in assisting the giants. rex for getting the giants riled up and ready to shut him up, and kyle williams for handing the giants the super bowl on a platter 2 weeks ago.

 

Maybe the solution is for total homers such as yourself to get over the notion that blind optimism is what makes a fan a good fan.

I said MUCH better, and Sanchez has at most made minimal strides forward. At most. In fact this past year he increased his turnovers, and it cost the Jets bigtime. The offensive line was worse than in some past years, but was not below average by any measure. There is nothing in his career to date to suggest he is likely to be much better this coming year.

And I don't have to do anything much less what you recommend. I acknoweldge that Sanchez is most probably going to get another year, but I am more resigned to that than hopeful about it.

 

It is hardly the case that it is just for one year that Tanny should be questioned. He has not really had a solid draft pick since he got Revis, although it is looking like Wilkerson was a good pick, and some others may prove to be. Kerley I think shows promise, but he has not achieved much, really, at least so far, and had some obvious problems with returns. Turner as you know barely began to show something, and it is not even clera he will be on the team this coming season.

Cotch wanting out did not address the adequacy of getting Mason to replace him, as that obviously was not a good move. And the fact that negotiations failed with Edwards and that Edwards later went to SF and did not work out is not something that to me is to Tanny's credit. It often if not usually takes two parties for negotiations to fail.

But... you said you are in fact concerned. Fine, that's the main point, even if you have more confidence than me that Tanny will fill the holes.

 

I feel like we went 9-8 because Schotty leaving was a huge win. Sure not firing him took out a little of the enthusiasm, but still it's a brand new day!!!

 

What is it a accumulative thing because this is no where close to the worst season we have had. Rex Ryan's bravado is no different then any coach with pride in his team and the admiration for what he knows they can do based on past performances. I can say that his inexperience has reared its head and in typical Rex Ryan fashion he has stated he was deficient in his coaching abilities and would correct those mistakes to become a better coach.

Based on what I have learned I will be paying more attention to the player personnel moves they make. If i see next to no improvements I will start to worry that Rex is once again relying far too much on others to shop for the groceries ; as Parcells would put it and that would be very troubling.

 

Instead of going out and signing 1 or 2 big players lets fill holes with role players who can help the team be competitive. It won't help to get a stud at 1 or 2 positions and keep holes and no depth at other positions. Also, I would love to pick up some talent in the draft. We have a full draft of picks finally and there are always studs to be uncovered who were undrafted. No need to draft another RB this year unless Richardson falls to us BPA. I also want the team to go the BPA route rather than reach to fill holes.

 

It sounds like you either have an agenda or are so jaded that it's blinding your logic.

You can't say the FO made poor decisions regarding Braylon/Plax/Mason, and then say that they got "lucky" about Kerley being productive and displaying potential. Kerley was scouted, evaluated and drafted -- just as the FO makes mistakes, they make good decisions too.

 

Vinny going down was really bad.