D'Brick...What to do with him?

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  1. APK 8

    APK 8 Well-Known Member

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    Restructure his contract. You are not going to find a better LT drafting 20th or at a reasonable price in free agency.

    All cutting him will do is open a huge void at LT. Then you'd have to find a player just to fill the spot and not necessarily be better. You still have to upgrade at RG and RT. If the line is weaker next season then you can kiss offensive production goodbye.
     
  2. NYJetsO12

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    You don't negotiate anything without a Plan B

    Mac will pull a LWilliams type move for this Offensive line problem i.e. Draft/aquire A good tackle that we can replace Ferguson with if necessary. It gives you leverage

    Who was more of a culprit with ther shitty play Dbrick or Guacomole? Keep Ferguson/Mangold and cut the rest of them Evaluate the whole thing carefully first
     
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  3. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    A good JETS player, but clearly in decline (father time's a $#@%^@#$ ) but they can't axe a starting LT without a viable replacement ready to fill in.
     
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    I would try as objectively as possible to assess what his market value is, not so much as a free agent as in terms of what comparable LT's are making. Offer him that number to restructure with some up front bonus as an incentive. Hopefully he takes it.
     
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  5. TNJet

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    Ask him to take a paycut so the Jets can go get a real Punt Returner and a real Punter so he is not having to block inside the 15 yd line every damn time.
     
  6. FJF

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    Add years and a litle money. Kick the can a little farther down the road to make a run now. All you can really do
     
  7. Mogriffjr

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    what's worse then having a need at one tackle? having a need at both tackles.

    Breno is easily the guy you want to upgrade. Brick is still a solid LT...you can go in the draft and draft Bricks replacement...have him be the RT until Brick is gone. In the meantime, restructure his contract.
     
  8. kevmvp

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    I don't want Brick back at his salary next year. He's no longer worth it. He's on the decline. I really think its time to start looking to move on at Left Tackle.
     
  9. BamaDoc

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    Absolutely you need to start looking for a replacement. I would peg him more as now an average lt tackle, no longer elite. He is better pass protecting than mauling in the run game and always has been. Even average left tackles have value. The advantage the Jets have in restructuring his contract is that I no longer see any guaranteed money just old signing/restructure bonus money for cap accounting. You could offer a lower number at 6-7 a year for three years and guarantee some of it. Gives us some cap room and him some security.
     
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  10. James Hasty

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    Time to go with a youth movement on OL.
     
  11. Jetsfansince95

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    Can he punt ...
     
  12. pdxdrew

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    I don't see how you cut Brick honesty. They will ask him to renegotiate his contract again. We aren't picking in the top ten, so a starting LT will be nearly impossible. My guess is that Macc will look for good value in the middle rounds.

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  13. kevmvp

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    He' no longer a franchise LT
     
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  15. Br4d

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    Guaranteed money is in parens below the salary. D'Brick has no guaranteed money next year. Not sure where the extra $1.4M on his dead money hit comes from. He's got $3.732M prorated from past bonuses. It's possible that the $1M roster bonus plus some of the workout money is guaranteed or that OTC doesn't have some guaranteed money from the salary listed.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Not true:

    Brick LT $8,625,000 salary / Prorated bonus ('16-$3,732,000/'17-$1,282,000) / Roster + Workout Bonuses $1,750,000 = Total cap hit $14,107,000 - Dead Money $5,014,000
     
  17. Jets4eva9011

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    Says who?
     
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  18. Br4d

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    Right, the question is where the difference in dead money between his prorated bonus and and 5.014 million comes from? I'm guessing the prorated figure is based on a June 1st cut and that if D'Brick is cut before then the Jets eat both numbers, the '16 and '17 prorated bonus. That's what the numbers add up to. The salary is no guaranteed. If it was guaranteed then D'Brick would have a $14.107M dead money number if cut.

    I'd do it a little bit differently if I was listing prorated bonus, showing both a full prorated bonus and a post-June 1st prorated bonus breakdown in the prorated bonus column. Right now it is implied and that will trip people up if they're not reading carefully.
     
  19. Get me the Damn Ball

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    The guy gave his blood, sweat, tears for the team and this fanbase and took multiple pay cuts over the course of his career when he was playing at a Pro-Bowl level (underpaid if you think about it). But the moment his play dropped the fan base cries for him to be cut or his contract be reworked lol this is why I will always support players looking out for themselves. Fans only think from their own point of view. Just like with David Harris, I hope they pay him to show him the respect and recognition he deserves.
     
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  20. heartpumpsgreen

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    I'll say this about D'Brick .... he is a great guy in the lockerroom, a great leader by all accounts never hear him having off the field bull crap. Home grown in Freeport, LI.

    His cap number btw ... just so everyone knows ... is big bc he took a huge paycut when he was playing at a pro bowl type level to give the team some extra cap room in years past. His cap number is due to his contract already having been restructured.

    That said 14 mill cap hit is huge, Realistically I think the team could ask him to take 8-10 mill this year. And a slight drop in 17 and gaurantee the money so he can securely finish his last 2-3 years where it started.

    D'Brick is not the reason we have lost any games btw. The team was LAST in the league in sacks. D'Brick, even in his PRIME was never a road grader of a run blocker that's what the right OT is for. You guys are calling for him to take 5-6 mill or FOH?? You guys know nothing. Cut him and see what a mess you will have on your hands ... there is nobody at #20 or in FA that will cost less that will be as good as D'Brick. Pro Bowler he is not. .. but he is still serviceable plus for 2, possibly 3 more years with good training and avoidance of injuries.

    BRICK IS NOT THE PROBLEM. yes MM can approach him and try to save 4-5 mill this year that's it. He's not as bad as you guys make him out to be.

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