D'Brick R'structures

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  1. PutJerrichoIn

    PutJerrichoIn Member

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    But when do Jets finally have to pay the piper for putting these hits off?
     
  2. dcm1602

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    make it happen Tanny
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, the amount of relief they needed for this season is directly proportionate to the amount of unfulfilled potential talent and unsuccessful gambles in player acquisition that have happened recently. When you gamble too much with draft picks in FA, one slip can hurt your cap situation for a number of years, like Brick's restructure bonus being spread across the length of his contact will likely do.

    Had the Jets gambled magnificently, and by that I mean all of their high-risk, high-reward scenarios paid off, this cap situation would be a minor headache. That is why the best organizations gamble with cut-throat precision and unpredictable regularity. They don't run head first into the big moves like an elk in full rut. The Jets football brain trust is learning this the hard way, because under Bradway, and before Cohen, the gambles were low-risk, low reward, though just as feverish and frequent.

    I hope these are men that can collectively learn when they shit the bed, and how to stop it.
     
  4. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

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    Let's go get some fucking pay back.
     
  5. TheCoolerGlennFoley

    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    Keep in mind once the new TV deal kicks in the cap is supposed to rise by a pretty solid amount.
     
  6. dcm1602

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    7% increase per season

    So its not gonna be instant, its gonna take quite some time until that number gets up there.
     
  7. southparkfanciz

    southparkfanciz Active Member

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    Now if only Sanchez could re-structure is obserd contract we'd be good. Seriously, isn't suppose to make like 12 mil this year?!!?
     
  8. joeklecko

    joeklecko New Member

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    That's only partially true. He is the one who created the tight cap mess in the first place restructuring or guaranteeing older and/or more expensive players' (Scott, Pace, Holmes) contracts. Those moves were stupid in the first place and never should have been made. He wasn't so bright or great with the cap then.
     
  9. joeklecko

    joeklecko New Member

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    That would be totally stupid. All three of those guys' contracts should be left alone. The only players you restructure or guarantee are players you know will be with the team long term.

    Sanchez is not a lock to be with the team long term at this point. If he doesn't show major improvement this year, then the Jets should start looking for their next QB of the future. If they give him more money or guarantee future salary, it could prevent their being able to trade or cut Sanchez.

    The reason they couldn't get rid of Holmes this season was because of the huge cap hit they'd take because of the way his contract was guaranteed.

    Cro's contract should be left alone. If Wilson emerges big time this year, then the Jets could move on from Cro next, move Wilson into the starting lineup and draft a new slot/nickel CB next season.

    At this point, there shouldn't be a lot of other options for the Jets to gain additional cap help. Possibly Mangold, David Harris or Revis, since they should be with the team long term. I can't think of another player who makes enough money to make much of a difference.
     
  10. joeklecko

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    It is my understanding that that isn't correct. The Jets only had $.5 million AFTER rolling over the $8 million from last year. Otherwise, they would have been over the cap.
     
  11. joeklecko

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    Devito is under contract. He has no impact on the $7 million.
     
  12. RochesterJet

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  13. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    devito is a potential cut as he carries no dead money against the cap..he should be a rotational player at best but due to our poor dl he gets more playing time..he ould be replacd by a rookie with wilkerson/pitoitua/dixon to step up
     
  14. RochesterJet

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    This really depends on what happens with Pouha, if he goes elswhere we must keep Devito. His strength is run stoping, esential in a 3-4 scheme. If pouha signs, yes Devito becomes expendible.
     
  15. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    Devito is overpaid for his talents..average run stopping 3-4 de should not be paid 2.3 milliom
     
  16. milcus

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    What a coincidence. There is a certain player who might become a free agent tomorrow.

    Great move actually. Save cap room, dont give Brick anything he would not have gotten anyway, and opens the door for a potential interesting few weeks.
     
  17. KWJetsFan

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    I'm certainly not a cap guy. The stuff gives me a headache. However, from what I'm reading here, I'm gathering the following:

    After Brick's restructure, The Jets have very limited cap space.

    I'm reading about 7MM with 5MM needing to go to draft picks

    If the Jets restructure guys like Sanchez further, it significantly hurts them down the road, especially due to not knowing if a guy like Sanchez will be with the team long term

    The needs the Jets have (IMO...OLB, OT, WR, S, TE) will have to be addressed almost exclusively through the draft, meaning we will need a lot of quality play from rookies

    I may be way off, and if I am, could one of the cap guys please correct me. If I'm right, this is troubling.
     
  18. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    All of the above is asuming they dont cut players like Smith..3 mil, Devito ..2.2mil...that is without restructring long term players such as Harris ..who no-one mentions...I can see the Jets restructing and extending his deal for say a further 2 years and increasing bonus to offset the (mil + cap hit this year
     
  19. patfanken

    patfanken Banned

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    Looks like, with few exceptions, your guys have spent most of the day slapping yourselves on the back, and congratulating yourselves and Tanny for a move that was necessitated by his poor cap management, and one that any fan on this board could have figured out. This isn't "genius", its just SOP for teams that get into cap trouble, by putting off payments that WILL eventually come due.

    But don't think this approximately $8MM cap savings isn't without consequences. D'Brick's cap number will be $2MM higher for the next 6 years. It also makes D'Brick more difficult to dump if his play this year continues to deteriorate. Prior to this year, D'Brick was one of the premier pass blockers in the league, although his run blocking has always left something to be desired. However THIS year, his productivity dropped significantly in the Jets pass game. It may have just been a hiccup, or it may turn out to be a trend. If its the latter then this move, may have even more dire consequences.

    On another note, there is one thing I'd REALLY like for some cap guru to clear up for me. Its about "cap rollever" that everyone talks about. Is there a certain date where it has to be applied by? Has it already been figured into the cap numbers that are being published?

    Some here think that the Jets have "another" $8MM available, beyond the numbers currently given. Some say its already been figured in. I have no idea, and would like a clarification.
     
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  20. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    One more example of how the cap means nothing. If you want someone bad enough there are plenty of ways to make it work.
     

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