Regardless of how folks feel about it i dont think it can be reversed at this stage.The movement is here to stay.A federal crackdown would surely tear an already restless fragile naton to its end.It’s adapt or die.Its time to Create sensible responsible rules & regulations.Invasion of privacy is at issue w employers that is outdated & short sighted but there are critical industries where safety is at risk & it simply cant be diverted..its simply a no go. That said ,Product development is moving fast on this movement.Ive heard of topical balms being developed that will actuallly erase the cerebral effects of pot within acouple minutes. Beyond that testing mechanisms have begun being put into motion.If true in a few years theyll be no reasonable excuse for being stoned at work other than a RX or playing lead guitar at madison square garden
As long as it's illegal, the NFL almost has to test for it. Imagine if they didn't, players started showing up stoned, and wound up getting seriously injured because the team let them play "while under the influence" and their judgment/performance was compromised. There would be lawsuits out the wazoo. Even if that didn't happen, a lot more players would start using marijuana, and in all likelihood a lot more of them would start getting arrested. Either way, it would be a huge nightmare for the NFL. Hopefully, it's legalized.
NFL contracts aren't guaranteed. When performance suffers and if you become a distraction from your team you can be cut. Let's be honest, Namath and Lawrence Taylor have 2 things in common, drug abuse and the fact that they were so good both teams looked the other way. Had they both been average guys who's performance was dropping they would both have been cut. When the Dallas Cowboys play in their home stadium the single largest bar in the State of Texas is Cowboy Stadium. In Nov. of 2015 Anheuser-Busch renewed its contract for Bud Lite as the official sponsor of the SB. They paid 1.4 Billion dollars. Anyone who has gone to numerous NFL games, particularly at night has had the game interrupted by people getting up and getting multiple beers during games. I have seen lots of fights break out late in games that are directly related to drunk fans. I went to my first ever game at Arrowhead Stadium this year. It was fantastic until the drunk next to me puked on the people in front of him. Instead of apologizing he got belligerent. Needless to say he was escorted out of the park after spending several hundred dollars on tickets and beer that the NFL profited on. I would have much preferred that he was smoking Alaskan Thunderfuck soon to be the official weed of the NFL and scarfing down barbecued potato chips.
Let me be even clearer than crystal. I have no idea why you think I'm disagreeing with you. Did you miss this as well? "EDIT: More on RX painkillers, alcohol, and anti-depressants <== the overlooked evil later. I have a lot to say." The NFL doesn't care about anything except money. They're full of shit liars (see CTE), chew people up and spit them out. Can we agree on that? To stay on POINT - I'm gonna say it again because the third time is usually a charm: under current policy Darron Lee got suspended 4 games without pay because he violated an idiot rule - that should be jettisoned - even though he was fully aware of the consequences as they currently exist. He knew he was getting tested, failed at least four times before being sanctioned, but he did it anyway, knowing he would more than likely fail. Are we on the same page now? I was also going to say that people have been getting fckd up since the dawn of time (I've said it before) just because. Spiritual significance or not, sometimes man just likes to alter their consciousness just because. This isn't why Darron Lee was suspended, and the NFL can also get fukked. We good?
He must be really stubborn as the players likely know exactly when they get tested and all the other rules. A pretty disappointing ending to a "promising" season for him.
I never thought I’d say this ... but given the quality of his backups we actually missed Lee in defense yesterday.
Maybe Lee ate a poppy seed bagel and tested positive for heroin. A four game suspension for smoking weed is backward ass, just like USA drug laws. Maybe it was cocaine. Have we had an official confirmation or is this national security top secret level stuff? For a league that is based on nothing more than insignificant mindless entertainment for the masses, they sure as hell take themselves very seriously.
I waited to post this till after the season. I usually don't post during the season lately, too many emotional posts based on our lousy season. I do visit the board daily and a lot of the in-season nonsense keeps me from posting. I live in Central Ohio, as some of you may know (C-Man), Darron Lee is also from Central Ohio (New Albany H.S.). I was playing golf with my Brother in law in early October in the New Albany area and we were paired up with two other guys who live in New Albany. One of the golfers noticed I had a NY Jet ball marker and mentioned his Son went to New Albany High together with Lee in the same class and occasionally hung out at the same parties, they were not close friends. His Son told his Dad, Lee is totally out of control, drinking to access and smoking a lot of weed, even while he is still on the Jet's roster. He mentioned Lee get's very combative and had to be restrained by multiple persons on more than one occasion.......sound familiar. I took it with a grain of salt, thinking it was just kid's talking and less than 2 months later the suspension. I know a lot of Kids party and do stupid things, but Lee should be a lot smarter now that he's an NFL player.
Didn't big fat cat leo already restrain him 2 seasons back from attacking his ex. Hopefully this is exaggerated as I would hate to see a potential good player throw his career away for fucking weed.
If true that is really a shame. Lee is on the verge of becoming a very good player. The defense was much worse without him. His ability to pick up and cover RBs was huge. I thought before this year he was not going to make a 2nd contract because of lack of ability. I was pretty amazed to see him play so well. Now it appears he might never get that contract because of stupdity. I hope this is a wake up call to Lee.
I think you're confusing it with the music festival on Randall's Island (Governors Ball) this past June when Fat Lenny interceded when Lee was getting into an argument with a woman. Minnesota Fats picked up Tiny Dancer and saved him from an arrest.
Unfortunately they tend to get dumber not smarter if they're already erratic, have arrested emotional development (through no fault of their own), and no self-discipline. I said it repeatedly after Robby Anderson's last arrest (even though the most serious charge(s) wound up being dropped): there needs to be mandatory therapy and a mentoring program a/k/a an assigned hall monitor in place for players who present as high risk for submarining their career. Sometimes people need to be baby sat and saved from themselves and then they will thank you later. This suspension was so avoidable, and Lee's reasoning behind it is because what, he thinks he's Superman? He KNEW he was going to test positive and still smoked. He also flunked a minimum of four times. I don't know if it's no respect for authority or just flat out stupidity. Probably both. I don't want the conversation to turn back towards getting suspended for weed is dumb. For the millionth time, that's not the point here.
I don't disagree at all, but doesn't the CBA prohibit this sort of chaperoning? It's what the union wanted and there is little the teams can do about it. The players union appear to still be living in the get your crew and fall guy sorted in advance age, but that won't cut it with weed or where every thing is captured on camera.
I believe the problem stems from the enabling that is done when these guys are in the beginning stages of their football careers. At some point in their physical development HC realize these guys are able to potentially play football at a higher level than their colleagues and start looking the other way with regards to discipline and accountability. By the time they get to the later years of their college careers and or the beginning of their football careers some of them still look at the world from the foundation that was established. While there are legitimate issues with mental disorders, it’s not the case with all of these players who are repeat offenders. This behavior is learned and ingrained and in most cases it’s who the person is and it won’t change. We all mature at different rates, however most 22 years old in the NFL are not acting out like Lee or Hunt. The fact that many of the young football players in the NFL are navigating through their youth, a football career, social life full of fame and new found money with no problems, shows it can be done. From the post that @WW85 put up about Lee, I’m going to say that it’s a pattern of behavior with this guy, not a one time incident. Leads me to believe that unless he wants to change and make some serious adjustments he’s not going to have a long NFL career. Well at least now I know why he was so late to hit the hole as a linebacker, slow reaction time due to being high......
I agree - this behavior is instilled in them from their earliest playing days, being coddled and enabled. We've all seen it. Maybe if they actually felt the consequences of their choices and behavior they would try to change, or if they didn't, maybe others who saw the consequences delivered would change before it happened to them. He should be cut. He has certainly not given a good ROI. He was somewhat better for some games this season, but not worth keeping IMO. He needs to live like the rest of us do: you make choices and you live with the results.
Director of NFL security saw Darron Lee's car in the Taco Bell drive-thru at 3am. Never even bothered to drug test him....just sent him the letter!
I know someone who's a cop. In college he smoked weed. When he became a cop he said, I can't touch the stuff anymore, if I want to smoke again I'm going to have to wait 20 years. Is a mentality like this really so difficult for football players? Their careers don't even last 20 years. Granted, I'd rather guys smoke weed than get addicted to pain killers if that's why they do it. However, if they just smoke just to smoke, come on.
