Darrelle Revis Ruled Out vs. Steelers

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  1. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    why is that?
     
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    This is ridiculous. NO WAY do I want this guy playing on Sunday. I'm shocked at how casual some of you guys are taking this. If he gets cleared in the 11th hour, are you guys really OK with him playing?? Not me.

    Different sport, but look what just happened to Tiexeira. Came back for a couple of games, reinjured his calf and now he's out for another two weeks ... and the Yankees are fucked. These guys are ALWAYS in too much of a rush to come back. It's only been 4 days since his brain was scrambled. Use some sense Rex ... let the guy get his head healthy for one game and go on with the season.
     
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    Completely different. If doctors clear him to play he should play and there would be 0 reason for him not to. He would be just as much a risk this sunday as he would the sunday after that. You don't re injure a concussion by running like you re injure a leg from running.
     
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    If we lose Sunday, our absolute ceiling is that of a wild card team.

    If he's proclaimed healthy, you let him play. Simple as that. This game is an ABSOLUTE must win.
     
  5. RochesterJet

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    Its also funny that you fail to relize we would have greater depth if we did trade him then we do now; making you statment a bunk.

    *I never argued Revis's ability or importance to this team. My arugments have been about lack of orginzational $ avaliable in the salary cap era if you invest too much money in a position.

    MOVING FORWARD---I hope he plays as we are a better team with him on the field this sunday. If there is any doubt I would rather see him sit a few games and be ready for the 49ers!
     
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    While I see the point and would tend to agree that if he is cleared, that means he can play and that he should, let's be careful:

    1) I wasn't aware this was a game against a division rival late in the season. Oh wait, that's because it's the SECOND game of the season. Sorry, and yes this game is important, but there's no way you can say that our "absolute" ceiling is anything if we'll be 1-1, including 1-0 in our division. If we win this game, we'll be in better shape than if we lose it... but we'll be 2-0 or 1-1. It's not an "absolute" must-win.

    2) We do not want Revis missing any more time. If there is even a small chance that he could have adverse effects from rushing back, you sit him. He's important, of course, but that's exactly why we need to make sure he's healthy for the course of the season and not waste him on one game.. because no one game, especially the second game of the season, is more important than the season as a whole.
     
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    HA! Cheeky, Steelers might not even score 14 :)

    17-13, Jets
     
  8. Milliner is your Mommy

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    If that were the case the doctors wouldn't clear him and he couldn't play regardless.
     
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    Dude, a concussion isn't the same as a muscle injury! You're either no go or full go.

    Exactly...
     
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    I don't understand the over paranoia. Like seriously, how many careers have ended because of concussions since the NFL implemented the new rules with their handling? Do you not understand the risks associated with concussions??? If the doctors clear him, he's good to go! It's not like a pulled muscle. C'mon man. Stop the madness. You really don't trust 2 separate doctors who are EXPERTS in dealing with concussions to evaluate him? If he had a pulled hammy or something I could see this argument, but it's not like he'll reactivate the injury with a small hit to the head or turning his head too fast.
     
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    Are you honestly going to trust expert doctors over posters on the internet?
     
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    This might sound like I am not taking it serious enough, but I am pretty sure if the score was 28-28 instead of 41-7, Revis would have come back into the game. Just how I feel.
     
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    if he's cleared, then he's cleared to kick ass, and he will.
     
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    The difference is, it clearly states that the majority of recurrences happened 7-10 days after the initial concussion. Can't we at least give him 14 days to get better?
     
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    Which bolded statement is wrong? You didn't answer my question about careers that have ended since the new rules for evaluating concussions began. Are you saying that somebody who's been cleared is possible to re injure from turning their head or a light hit? Is that seriously your claim?

    1. How many of these studies have been conducted since the rules have become more strict? (edit: just read it and it goes back 10+ years, so none)

    2. How many of these include mild concussions? Every situation is different. If there was just a set time period, why would be bother having 2 doctors evaluate them?

    3. That's only 6%, which isn't a very high percentage at all. So 6% of people who get concussions get them again after 7-10 days. Big whoop.

    4. It doesn't mention the factors involved in each situation. Was it reactivated by playing them too early? Was it reactivated because they hit their head again?

    I guess we should sit Sanchez then as well. There's always a chance that he could get hurt and be out for 3-4 weeks. We can't risk that, despite how small, let's sit him.

    My Aunt is a doctor that specializes in sports injuries. My cousin slipped last time we were together and busted his head and got a concussion. She explained all about it. The biggest risk is participating in physical activity when you are still experiencing symptoms, because if you do that and re injure you could destroy your brain. Once you get past that point, the risk is just as low as getting the concussion in the first place. Of course there's always a risk of injuring again. That will be true for the rest of the season. It doesn't justify a paranoid decision that a fan makes that contradicts the doctors who evaluate him.

    1 in 15 is now a majority?
     
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    From my viewpoint not one but two conditions must be met
    A) fully cleared by the medical staff
    B) Revis knowing his body and his brain faculties better than anyone else feels he is 90-100% and it's ready to go. If he is feeling than lingering sensation that something is not right then don't play him
     
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    gotta hope he's being honest, as we all know he'd go out there missing an arm if they let him.
     
  20. truthbtold

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    Barcs -
    All that is great ... and alot of it I never said. But the point is this:

    There IS a risk to playing only 7 days after a concussion. So if the study says 7-10 days is the most dangerous window, then I'd make damn sure the window is closed tight before I put the best player in the history of the franchise back on the field. That's really what it comes down to ... is it worth the risk? For me, its not. I wouldn't play the guy until we go to Miami.

    I'm not saying he'll get another concussion on Sunday, but I am saying the chances of it happening on Sunday are greater than any other time in the season. Yeah, the odds are against it ... but if it happens, its a fucking disaster.

    Nobody is worried about a small hit to the head. I didn't realize that the Steelers agreed not to hit him too hard. Why didn't you say so? If the agreement is in place that Revis will only need to turn his head a few times, and take a few light hits, I say play him. :rolleyes:
     

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