+1 Strong front 7 can make even the weakest secondary look functional. It doesn't work the other way around, however. For that fact, I like that Jets defense for now have a good core to build up very strong front 7. Once they can find the top-tier pass rushing talent from the draft (and a few rushers like Maybin to keep the LBs rotating) then the front 7 would be all set.
No, but Revis + pass rushing OLB = 0 (offensive production). There's more than one way to skin a cat.
hey when mike fatcessa cant find anything bad to say about him then thats proof that hes fucking amazing. This week should be interesting...whether hes matched on someone or moving around.
The Eagles are not using Nmandi in man cover. They are using him in their zone/cover 2 schemes. Why they signed him and use him in this fashion is beyond me. All these years with playing with his back to the QB is the total opposite of zone. We should reserve judgement, he may pick it up by year end and be back to his old form. I am almost positive, the beginning of this season aside that Pettine and Rex would play him to his strength, so it really isn't an apples to apples comparison. Say what you want about the coaching this year, on defense, the Jets put their players in positions to succeed. I will say the Jets messed up putting all their eggs in the Nmandi basket in the first place. The Jets had other options and other areas to shore up. I am hoping they learned their lesson the hard way. If they didn't well then there will be a new regime in a year or two................. Also good pass rushing OLB's are difficult to find. I can not recall a place where the Jets made an obvious mistake taking another position over a cracker jack OLB. I am not saying this to say the FO did a good job, I truly am not aware of an instance. If someone can list one or more, that would be great.
It's easy to say that in retrospect, but had they signed Nmandi we have no idea how the games might have played out differently. This team could lose every game for the rest of the season and the "regime" wouldn't go. Tanny and Rex have been incredibly successful compared to past coaches and GM's here.
Actually it was easy prior to. I was never enamored with giving all that money to a 30 y/o cb. I would rather have JJ and not hamstring all the other FA decisions........oh well As far as the 2nd part. you think that if the Tanny and Rex make the same mistakes and this team looks like a total mess the rest of this season and into the next, they are still here?...............I don't. However, that isn't happening, so why talk about it. I still have total confidence they will fix it and learn.
Hindsight is 20/20 like a mutha fucka. I was HUGE on the Aso bandwagon. Wanted him on the Jets probably more than I've wanted any other player on this team. And like you said earlier, the Eagles are fucking idiots using him in the way wrong fashion. I still believe if he came here, we would have had the greatest secondary in football history (even with our shaky safties). That all said, you are dead on fucking right that we should have gone after JJ. Younger, cheaper and someone we would have used well. Alas, hindsight. Like you, I hope the FO learned a valuable lesson (though I'm not sure they did) about getting played by a FA. Additionally, I LOVE Sanders. But I think Revis is better, mainly because, as one poster already pointed out, the rules are so anti-CB, and yet he still shuts people down.
Can't disagree............. I should add I wasn't pounding the table against Nmandi. I would be lying if I said I was. Just thought it would be better not to stop everything and be paralyzed till he made a decision. Those threads made for a fun couple of days.
I'm pretty sure if you go back through my posting history you'll see I wasn't too happy about putting off all the other FA decisions. I don't mind having Cro instead of JJ, I can live with that. Not resigning some of our other guys was more annoying. Of course, in retrospect I can say "LETS GET SOME OFFENSIVE LINE HELP" too. I think they could finish this season at 7-9, and then eat a 6-10 season or so, and say they're rebuilding and Rexenbaum would still be around. Back to back AFC championship games in your first two years get that kind of loyalty. I don't think things are all that bad though. Once Mangold is back the offense will return to its pre-Baltamore semi-clusterfuck state.
I recall mentioning about this; I got a feeling Aso was fucking with the team, and I felt Jets could still go after Dawan Landry AND Jonathan Joseph. Jets FO dropped the ball right there - if I were in Tanny's seat at that time, I would have pulled the plug on Aso instead of letting him hold the team hostage. With the Jets defense credential, I don't think JJ would have demanded nearly $10M/yr like he did against Texans.
I disagree on this point. Tannenbaum got a mulligan in 2007 when the Jets collapsed and again at the end of 2008 when Mangini was fired. I think a bad 2011 would be strike three and out the door. Hopefully with Bradway going along too. Tannenbaum has been more successful than Bradway because he didn't trade up for flops. The trade ups have still on balance been almost as harmful to the Jets as helpful and he clearly has not assembled a great team while doing them. The down side of the strategy is that if you trade up a lot and don't assemble that great team, well in a few years you'll be looking at weak depth, aging stars and no good way to quickly replenish the talent pool. Now throw in the fact that his draft record picking high in place is not all that good and I think it becomes easy to turn the page if this team under performs badly.
There is NO CHANCE Tannenbaum is going anywhere, even if they finish 2-14 this year. Under his watch the past few years, they Jets have become relevant, which was Woody Johnson's goal, and have had tremendous success, especially in the post-season. He built a roster that was considered a Super Bowl contender coming into this season, and drew rave reviews for many of his moves the past few years. He brought in the "franchise QB", he brought in Holmes for a 5th, he managed to re-sign Revis, Mangold, Harris, Brick, and Holmes. I think it would take two more seasons after this one of underperforming play on the field for Tanny to be on the chopping block. He's done too much good for it to even be considered, especially since Woody Johnson seems to love him.
The Jets were looking good going into 2005 also and the collapse cleared out the head coach and got the GM demoted. Woody Johnson does not accept repeated failures. It is his strongest facet as an owner. I think if the Jets were to collapse this season, which I think is not going to happen, that the odds are very good that Tannenbaum is relieved of his duties as GM. It's Woody's style and so far that style has turned collapse into renewal twice (2006, 2009).
The head coach left by choice after 2005. He basically quit on the Jets, and the Jets got a draft pick for him. That was an easy decision to let him go. And in his tenure as GM, Terry Bradway had no where near the success Tannenbaum has had the past 2 years. There is no chance one disaster year coming off 2 straight AFC title games would get him fired. Just no chance. Nor should there be.
It would not be one disaster year. It would be his second. 2007 was on him also and for many of the same reasons.
