Forget the pundits legler. You are my QB guru. You were the first whistle blower on Mahomes a year before anybody. Same for Watson. You are the QB guru and I am a witness. Tell me. Did we lose much by losing on Trevor?
I love Sam Darnold and I fully think he will succeed in the NFL. And if Douglas chooses to keep him, that would prove my point. Sam had mono last year, got his shoulder destroyed this year, had to learn from a terrible coach in Adam Gase, had to throw to some weak WR's and almost no running game, so the deck has been stacked against him. That is easy to see. He played well against the Rams and Browns showing he is not fully broken at 23 either. However, for me, when your team starts (1-7) in 2019 and (0-13) in 2020, you need to change a lot of things. That could include QB too. A fresh start could be great for everyone. I am on board with trading Sam and drafting Fields or Wilson, probably Fields at this point. Again, I love Sam, but I love winning too. We have to trust Joe Douglas will make the right moves, and that includes the QB position too.
Fields definitely played a part in allowing those doubts to be cast based on a few bad games against good D's, in a world that's critical of how well prospective QB's tie their shoes and checking if they floss everyday etc...So I think that's part of it, while TL hasn't had as many noticeable "bad" games. Then I think there's the Moneyball part, which may be the bigger part. The "good face", relating to football as the prototype QB build and how he's viewed as a pocket passer than can run vs. Fields getting labeled a bit as a runner vs. a classic pocket passer.... It's pretty fascinating actually...If anyone gets the chance to read the book vs. watch the movie, Beane as a prospect was asked to race against Darrnel Coles at a tryout. Coles was viewed as the fastest player in the draft. Beane beat Coles in a foot race and the scouts didn't want to believe it as it went against what they were trained to believe so the scouts made them race again and Beane beat him again. The point of that was, I think there's definitely bias going on here based on how TL checks all of the visual + tools + production boxes while, in our ever critical world, JF comes up a bit lower than TL in the visual part...thus knocking him down a bit below TL, then throw in the few bad games and boom, he's not as good. Will be fascinating to see if JF lights it up against AL next week if/how that narrative changes at all.
Good post! I agree. I definitely think there is bias in the scouting world. Some are biased because of the school the player attends. Example: OSU has never had a great QB prospect except Art Schlichter. Ergo, Fields can't really be good, he's just a slightly better Haskins. Some are biased because the player doesn't have perfect measurables. Some are probably biased because they don't like the player's personality or character. I'd hope not, but some may be biased because of race or religion. People are people after all.
In terms of overall talent, I think they are comparable. They are just different. I don’t subscribe to the Lawrence being a generational talent narrative. Trevor might be ahead in the processing speed but that should be expected since he’s a 3 year starter compared to Fields who started not even a full 2 years. Bottom line we’re not losing much. Pair Fields w/ the right coaching staff & we’re big winners. Both JAX & NYJ fans should be happy.
There are several key paragraphs on the guy in the video's (Tyler Menting) web site that I think should be shared. Bolding and italics are mine. I don't agree with all his QB evaluations, but what he says here is spot on, imo. We all know that many football coaches have "their system" and that players "have" to fit their system rather than the coach adapting his system to the players on hand (square pegs into round holes). We know that Gase was guilty of that with Sam and this offense. IMO the most important trait or attribute our new HC must have is flexibility. He MUST have a track record of adapting his "system" or using a system that fits the talent of his QB and the players he has on hand rather than some set of "ideal" players. Thus, he puts his players into a position to succeed. IMO that is more important than pedigree, W-L record, how much NFL experience he has, where he has coached, age, being the CEO, or anything else. We cannot afford another HC who will try to force square pegs into round holes and waste our talent and ruin our next QB. Hopefully, our candidates will have all of these positive traits/attributes, but I'm absolutely certain that they must have the desire and track record of adapting systems that fit their players' talents. To my knowledge there are only a few potential candidates who have shown that the do this. IMO the following coaches should be the prime candidates, and perhaps the only candidates. Brian Daboll Matt Campbell Arthur Smith Greg Roman Maybe Pat Fitzgerald and PJ Fleck (I don't know enough about either of them, but think I heard that they adapted their systems to their players.
Do you have an OC in mind who will be available and can unlock Fields' potential? The next HC is ideally a program builder, but not necessarily a guru on one side of the ball. Unless we make Brady the HC, he's not coming to the Jets.
I’m not up on who are the best coaching candidates are. I’ve read there are a lot of young offensive coaching options available out there. Any of them should do. It’s not like Fields is scheme specific. He’s just a talent that will need to be coached up like Allen, Herbert...etc.
Lawrence is the best QB prospect I’ve seen I a very long time because he constantly and consistently plays solid football. With Fields he has a lot of bad tape especially this year. The Bama game will show me a lot
I wouldn't call that a bias necessarily. After all, if a QB has bad feet, then he's going to be throwing off platform a lot, which will affect his accuracy and velocity, and undoubtedly lead to more incompletions and interceptions.
this times 100. We need JD to have the control over the HC search, and then for the HC hire and JD to be 100% agreed on the solution at QB. Get rid of the decade of mismatches and as you say failed arranged marriages. JD got a 6 year contract, he should be the one running the show.
I’m loving how because of one game and now Fields is all of a sudden better than Lawrence SMH. Fields isn’t even in the same ball park as Lawrence but I hope the Jags take him now
Around the 4 min mark he starts listing off how Fields is better at running and he’s a better option if your OL isn’t good etc etc.. Lawrence is a better version of Watson in my opinion and way more pro ready over Fields.
