Very. popular but untrue theory. When teams put players on the PS they realize other teams can claim them , If the Jets really valued either back so highly they simply could have elevated them to active roster.
Woodhead displays the same skill set as Washington..not Jones that should be clear even to someone as dense as yourself. Shonn would replace Jones. Yes, you should explain why a Divison 1 QB that lasted 6 rounds before being drafted and could not beat out Drew Bledsoe for a job is a piss poor comparison for the NCAA's leading rusher who is stuck behind the most explosive player in the NFL is a piss poor comparison, unless your too dense to do so...
Really..Untrue? only in the sense that I forgot Little John Flowers. Flowers, Derrick Ward, Danny Ware... If you are hanging your hat on the word stolen then you are conceding the argument that the CS has an excellent track record in evaluating RB's..but then you're too bright for me to have to point that out...Thanx for playing.
I never said he had the same skill set as jones, hes a scat back. what i'm saying is he doesn't even see the field unless both jones and washington get injured which is not too likely to happen. If washington goes down, sorry to break your little heart, woodhead is not going to play. sure ryan may give him a snap here, a snap there, but he will not be a factor. And the Brady/Woodhead comparison is piss poor because Brady is one of the best qbs in the nfl and has led his team to the superbowl several times. Woodhead will not be leading this or any other team anywhere, his ncaa accomplishments mean dick all in the nfl. Gholston actually had sacks in college, see what i mean? :wink: btw, calling me dense was a waste. if you're going to resort to petty name calling at least make it worth it.
He sees the field if Washington gets injured...or whoever is returning punts on opening day.. Oh..and BTW the genesis of the thread is Caulcrick being waived to make room for Woodhead, and whose skill set is more replaceable...that issue is clearly not in dispute by any reasonable observation of the sport. And as for the Brady thing, you are comparing apples to oranges. Brady could not PLAY HIS WAY ONTO THE FIELD that fact is not in dispute by any person with the ability to google. The comparison is valid. The simple point is, you never know what a guy can be (terrell davis another 6th rd pick comes to mind) until the guy gets significant snaps. Brady may be the best QB since Montana, but the fact that he could not get past Bledsoe is not in dispute...so he wasn't great until he got on the field by accident....that's the point... Woodhead could turn out to be simply nothing, but the comparison point is, at this point he's proved more than the best player in the game at the most important position in the game at similar points in relative time......
Yep, yep' Just about to say that, plus one! Leon was a nobody until given the chance to shine, same thing with Coles as well as Moss, I know different positions. But If Leon is given a Ton of carries this season, and goes down hard with an injury, I am all for this kid getting a chance. Parcells type player, and best thing since Wayne. What blows is the amount of "Homer" posters that were all about Danny after the last game, then, once cut, turned face and agreeded he was a waste. A-Typical jets fans, ride the hot guy for awile, one bad play and they are a goner. Sigh...............
you start comparing Brady to Woodhead, but i'm the one comparing apples to oranges? lol sure thing buddy. Until Woodhead proves he can do something i'm not going to suck him dry like some of you just because he's a good story. Until he's doing something to make this team better he doesn't matter, his ncaa achievements do not mean anything, yet u bring it up in several replies. so every time i see someone talk about what woodhead did in college i'm going to bring up that gholston could get to the qb in college too.
Yes..you are comparing disparate points in time. Before Mo Lewis put Bledsoe out..Brady was no different than Woodhead..A college guy stuck behind a better player. The difference in Danny's case is that this scouting staff turned out Danny Ware, Leon Washington, and Derrick ward, so the evidence tilts in favor of their observations...is that so difficult a concept to grasp?
Let me be clear, by wrong eye I meant you were talking out your ass. Your are so bent because a mediocre, never make it in the NFL RB, is on the practice squad and really it is laughable. LOL, If I had to base your knowledge of football on your posts inside this thread and the other 50 threads like it, I would say you are no more knowledgeable about football then the sock Raiderjoe uses to jerk it to his Al Davis poster. Not only that, Fullback is the one postion in football where many of the now top players actually were scrubs on the practice squad. So they actually learned their craft there. How many of the top RB's in the NFL sniffed the PS compared to the top FB's that did? It's a hell of a lot rarer for an RB to take 4-5 years to get "it" vs. a seemingly scrub FB. But you are so blinded by emotion, like a girl having her first period, to even realize that...........
:rofl2: Interesting bcause last year hunter and Turner both lined up as blockers.. I don't just watch games...I tape them and re-watch them in slo mo at least 3 or 4 times a week..... you don't know what you are talking about. Tom Brady was a mediocre, never make it the NFL before Mo lewis, just like Kevin O'Connell.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah I know you watch as much tape as an NFL coach. It certainly shows in your posts.:rofl2: Yeah, How about this if Woodhead even gets 1500 yards in an NFL career I will donate $100 bucks to a charity of your choice? Let alone be a 1st. Ballet hof'er.
That was not what I said....not even close...What I said was at the same point in their respective careers, they had the same resume...the counter argument?
A few things: 1) Glad to have Woodhead back on the PS. I guess all of the posters who were claiming that there was no way in hell he'd clear waivers can admit they were overestimating exactly what Woodhead has "proven" to this point. He's got exciting potential and he's in a spot where we had room for him. It all worked out, except... 2) I don't like going into the season with only one FB, and I don't like going into the season banking on a 38 year old as the backup. Still, it's better than nothing. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Neal re-signs with the Ravens and Caulcrick makes it back onto our PS at some point in the season. I've said it before, but I think the 11 DBs on the roster is a temporary move. None of our DBs outside of Revis showed anything in the preseason. While we can carry a couple of extra players, we'll audition them. I fully expect to be down to 9 by the time we roll into Week 4. Don't be surprised if there's also a cut coming at the LB position when Pace returns to play, which would allow a player to be elevated from the PS at another position and a space opened up for Caulcrick on the PS. 3) The idea of using a TE as a FB has some merit, but it's minor. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Pats used David Thomas as their FB for most, if not all, of the season last year. However, the Pats run a very different scheme than we do, and the FB position is largely superfluous. We run a power running scheme and need a lead blocker with more traditional FB skills. I don't feel comfortable seeing one of our regular TEs out there, let alone one of the converted linemen. 4) Can we quit with the proclamations on Woodhead? Yes, his value has been overstated by many on the board. He wasn't a necessary addition to the team at this time, and apparently 31 NFL teams didn't see him as a surefire success. Comparing him to Derrick Ward and Danny Ware even is absurd. We have NO idea whether he'll be successful as a pro. And that's just the point. We have no idea that he's incapable of any success, either. Woodhead could go either way, and all I'm seeing is this idea that he's already one or the other. I'm glad we found a place for him, but I don't like the way in which we did it.
He (Brady to be clear) was the 2 year starting QB of one of the best, most prestigious D-1 programs in the country. He was drafted, albeit not in a top round but was drafted. He has the prototypical size for a QB, sure he had his knocks, like he was slow and some arm questions. However, in his first year he worked his way up into the 2nd string role.......................... in his first season behind a QB that was #1 overall pick. Not only that, it takes QB's several years to develop,certainly they have a much much steeper learning curve than a RB. It is much rarer for a top flight RB show zero, come out of nowhere and be a star. I can name just a few. Btw don't waste my time using Terrell Davis as an example. Seriously, I am completely failing to see any logic in this comparison. This is like comparing apples and some fruit nobody’s ever heard of.
WTH - Is this some kind of morse code. Your either super intelligent and I can't follow - or you let you cat loose on your keyboard. The point I'm makin is the Jets had the choice to keep or not keep Ware and Ward . At the point in time they let them go there was no real need for them on the roster. The same obviously holds true for Woodhead , only difference is no other team has a use for him either.
So Leon , Coles and Moss were nobodies. Leon was a 4th rd draft choice from Florida State. Coles was a third rd pick and if not for the shoplifting issue with Peter Warrick he probably would have been a 1st rounder. Moss was a 1st rd pick who the Jets traded up for. Comparing any of them to the Danny Woodhead situation is just absurd
Jeehu Caulcrick is far more overrated than Danny Woodhead. I have never seen so much love for a FB that couldn't make the big squad for two seasons now. The fact that the Jets signed another FB should tell us all we need to know about how they felt about Caulcrick. Woodhead on the PS is exactly where he belongs right now, he is the perfect player to be on the practice squad. He is a guy that will push his teammates in practice and can step into three important roles in case of injury. Who TF cares about Jeehu Caulcrick for gods sake?
