If Wilson busts, the regime likely won’t survive it. The level of what happens to Wilson is important though. It’s one thing to turn into a game manager, it’s another to turn into Brady Quinn.
His coaching record with the Jets was 46-50. How that translates into making the Jets a winner more often than not is beyond me. 2 seasons with a winning record. That's it. You nailed it.
Predicting a playoff run for the NY Jets has just gotten me into trouble these past 10 (sigh) years So I would rather not sunnyside it with so many questions regarding Wilson the Roster and this CS So I am doing what I did the past season...lemme look at the first three games before puttin money where my mouth is lol Considering its year 2 for ZW I expect some big improvement But how big an improvement for him and Team is a mystery tbh
hahha aiiight....one question, you mention Fields. So youre bullish on Fields after this year but youre bearish on Wilson correct? Why???
Umm... I was the first guy to back Wilson but I never low rated Fields nor Wilson even during his darkest days in '21. You have me mistaken for someone else. Every young QB needs a system that fits his style. Now I don't know what the new Bears HC will bring but if they're not stupid, they'll find an OC that knows how to utilize a running QB like say... LJax. Wilson will eventually learn the Frisco System that LeFleur is trying to install and when he does, we'll see an vastly improved QB. But that still doesn't change next year's equally brutal schedule. Like I said.. 4 wins max if everything goes well including the draft.
And yet in those two seasons he delivered twice as many playoff wins as any Jets coach before or since. Can't argue with those numbers.
I think it depends on how long they stick with Zach if he continues to play like crap. If I was Joe Douglas I'd be looking for someone to push him in camp.
He went to TWO AFCCG's. Back to Back years. That doesn't get discredited. Just because you have talent, doesn't mean you are absolutely going to make It that far. You still have to coach your ass off. What baffles me, with people that want to try to excuse the feat, like yourself. Is... We know Mark Sanchez wasn't a good QB. He turned out to flop. Obviously. Yet, despite that, we still went to the AFCCG. Back to back years. Rex had only TWO losing seasons as well. If you look at the rosters during those seasons, It's no surprise. Perception.. Is... Interesting. Indeed.
Worst case scenario next year is probably if we win 6-7 games while Zach only improves slightly. It'd be enough of a murky result to trick our dumb owners into keeping Wilson, JD and Saleh. If Wilson barely improves next year then we have to cut ties with him and take a stab at another QB early in the draft.
09' 10' - back to back AFCCG appearances. Beat amazing teams to get that far as well. With a shite QB to boot. With two winning seasons, two neutral seasons, and two losing seasons... What the guy accomplished Is better than any coach I've been alive to see. It's true enough for me.. This Isn't a Rex Ryan debate either.. What he did Is obvious to me, I don't need to defend It. I'd take those days back In a heart beat over this new age shit we got going on now.
Yeah, he really "rushed into" taking a QB at 2. SMH. I know you would've preferred that he rushed into trading back and skipping taking a QB to give Sam another year to fail. And while there is some merit to have considered trading back and staying with Darnold, it was NOT the right thing to do. Even if he did acquire some other good players, the Jets would still have a sub-NFL quality QB playing for them. Or they would've had to overpay for some jag vet QB who would've saddled them with a bad contract and made drafting a rookie and giving him a good chance to win the job impossible. Not to mention that this year there are no QBs rated to be even as good as the lower rated ones from last year. One thing I'm really happy about: you're not the Jets GM.
I never said stick with Sam. If you don't think that after year three of a QB we picked 3rd overall, on a 2-14 roster, using pick 2 on another QB isn't rushing into a QB, then your a lost cause. We had two choices with our first pick last season. Cash it out and build a truly competitive team over the next two seasons, or spend it all on one risky, unproven, QB. Okay arm chair GMs, which is a better choice? Your takes on the Jets have gotten increasingly worse all season. IMO you entering DWC territory with your homerism.
got it...the QB part.....but calling next year's schedule brutal is wayyyyy off anything based on reality.....I dont think you could find one person on this board to agree that its "brutal"
I've been agreeing with Ouchy on a lot lately but yeah, if you don't have a QB you have nothing. Just have to keep taking stabs at them in the draft until one works out.
so based on 2021 record we have the 17th hardest schedule. can teams get better? obviosuly. can they get worse? obviously but theres simply no logical way to call that schedule "brutal" For those too lazy to click, the aggregate record of the teams we play next year, this year was under.500 https://eatdrinkandsleepfootball.com/schedule/strength-of-schedule.html
Yeah... the best case scenario is for Zach to be really good or really bad. But there are other ways to get a quarterback... look at what Tampa did.
I actually think we waited a year too long with Darnold, not a year too short. We should've moved on from him after year 2 because it was pretty damn clear he wasn't a good QB by that point. Rebuilds don't kill teams. Hanging onto coaches and QB's for longer than they should due to sunk cost fallacy does. Having a highly drafted QB bust isn't nearly as harmful if you give them 2 years tops (which is usually enough of a sample to draw conclusions).
