What I said are facts. What you are saying is your opinon and speculation. 8-5 as a starting QB , after taking over a 1-4 team that was 7-24 (worst in thew nfl during that span) after his #1 reciever was immediately traded before his first start. 6 comeback victories, 1 playoff win as a starter. Those are FACTS not opinions. Blame it on luck, leprechauns riding unicorns or whatever..IT HAPPENED As far as the steeler game , Kuper, Moreno, Dawkins, Decker and Miller all injured or out. Those are key players for Denver , EVERYONE at that time of year has injuries. Also The steelers played 9 in a box ALL GAME and Tebow STILL had 50 yards rushing and a TD. if the steelers decided to played him out of that 9 in a box set he would have rushed for 150 yards and multiple TDs. You cant have it both ways. they went 9 in a box out of necessity not because Dick Lebeau and the #1 defense in the NFL suddenly went brain dead. they stayed in that set because they did not believe he could pass but they believed he would run them over , well guess what...they were one and done for their lack of belief. Harrison, Polamalu, HALL OF FAME players looked like deer caught in headlights in that game so stop making excuses for the steelers .
I said that they THOUGHT about it. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/pack...r-audible-with-packers-4p3loj7-136856133.html Now, before you go off and make the same silly mistake that cval did, that Rodgers was backing up HoF'er Brett Favre has nothing to do with the point and doesn't change a thing. The simple fact of the matter is that Aaron Rodgers SUCKED his first two years in the NFL. It's a good thing that GB had Favre, as Rodgers played like crap whenever he was given a chance those two years. It wasn't until his third year in the league that he improved and things finally clicked for him. The reason I ever brought this up is because cval tried to argue that Tebow had plenty of time to improve, and that therefore, he'll never be a good NFL QB. As I just demonstrated, the best QB in the freaking league right now SUCKED his first year as a backup AND his second year as well. It took him until his third year in the league to progress into becoming a good NFL QB.
You may adore your Timmy and pray that some act of god can fix his unfixable passing mechanics But it doesn't have a chance in Hell of happening no matter how many years or decades he remains in the NFL before finally getting Jamarcus Russelled Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2
You left out that the Packers picked Brian Brohm at QB in 2008 in the 2d round, after Rodgers had been on the roster three years. All signs point to him not clicking until late. But I've had this conversation before -- people who hate Tebow seem to either not not believe this, or they have the ability to just constantly rewrite history in their heads. They've convinced themselves that most QB's come right out of the gate looking awesome. Couple of other behavioral notes -- they tend to think Drew Brees looked awesome right away, and only an injured shoulder caused him to be let go. They forget he looked so rough at first that the Chargers picked Rivers. The other thing is they say "Well, those quarterbacks are different because they are pocket passers." Fine, stick to that and don't suggest that it's been a long time for Tebow. Especially when he needs mechanics work. Looks like he's throwing it well this year to me, just the mechanics and spiral.
The simple fact is that you produced no facts that showed the Packers thought about trading or releasing him. You produced 1 speculative article about how he struggled, but no quotes from people actually on the team. The only thing that comes close to supporting your argument is that Thompson thought about drafting a QB, but even that is not proof of your statement. As I suspected, you pulled that out of your ass. Lying on message boards is not cool
Is the Brees thing accurate? I thought most if not all posters know the Drew Brees story because Brees is a smaller QB like Sanchez, Brees had Schotty, and Brees blossomed late. Most Jets fans on here know Eli's and Brees' story very well because that is the hope with Sanchez since he hasn't had it click right away.
I really think you need to read it again. Find me any part of that article where it shows that they were thinking about trading or releasing him. You are not being an objective reader.
You have your head up your ass and your mind is set. It's to the point where I could walk outside with you, point to the big assed bright thing in the sky and say "that's the Sun" and you would argue to the contrary.
Here's a thought... If Tebow proves to be a good trainable QB-monkey, we'll trade him to some poor QB-less team for 1st or 2nd rounder + pass rusher. If Tebow proves to be an untrainable baboon, we'll showcase his special team/4th down/short yrds, etc. skills and trade him to some poor team for 2nd or 3rd rounder + pass rusher.
You both are kind of right. There is no definitive proof in your article that says the Packers were thinking about it. Thinking about drafting a QB while is a negative on Rodgers (your point) it is not a definitive we are moving in a different direction (other guys point). The big quotes saying if he was released was an AFC scout. Again that's somebody not 100% familiar saying Rodgers has performed poorly (your point) but again it is in no way proof that the Packers were considering releasing him (other guys point) Then there are quotes about his limited game time playing poorly (your point) but nothing from the GB organization saying they were considering releasing or trading Rodgers (other guys point).
Exactly. All I'm saying is that there is nothing in the article to suggest they thought of trading or releasing him. Did he struggle, sure. But you should not twist that into a factual error. Of course that is a minor point, but that is how these discussions devolve into bullshit. You twist around facts enough and build your argument on a weak foundation and you get a warped perspective
If they were seriously considering using a high draft pick to bring in another QB, then that means releasing or trading Rodgers was under consideration as well. The main point that I raised was that Rodgers SUCKED as an NFL QB his first 2 years in the league.
At least Rodgers sucked as a quarterback. He didn't suck as a make-shift quarterback who is really a half back that throws the ball poorly, and led the league in fumbles in only 11 starts.
As an unbiased answer, I'd like to point out that teams don't release their draft boards and strategy, so it's all hearsay unless you were in the room.
Damn, did you get banned from Bronco land again ? Or just continuing to feed your pathetic desire to find a place to say something bad about Tebow ? I'm telling you man, it's a sickness and you really ought to see someone about it. It's just not healthy.
I'd agree if they were discussing future plans. But my reading of the article is that those involved were talking about the past, so it wouldn't matter if they said "yeah, we were looking at other QBs".
I have 20 posts on this board. You, on the other hand, have 542, in under 3 months, in which every single one of them you are desperately e-knighting for Tebow's honor. ... and I'm the one with the problem? :rofl2:
