Ding ding ding......... its about time the jets made the middle level (LB) the focus of the team. Most top flight defenses have stud LB's and good but not great defensive lines. The only real exception is the recent giant SB teams.
He's going to be the highest paid NT in the NFL. I'm thinking it's a 3rd. I don't think they go strictly by the numbers. I think they also include as a factor where the player ranks among his peers at the position.
The cap is a must.. There would be very little buzz in March for the NFL at FA if there wasn't a cap for so many reasons... Also it keeps the big market teams more honest.. Most importantly it makes drafting players incredibly important.
Sad to see Snacks go, especially to the other side of MetLife. But I had a feeling he would get a bigger off elsewhere that we couldn't match. He'll be sorely missed.
While the formula has never been publicized, I read a good article on it and it never mentions position. It mentions Average Per Year, playing time with the new team and post season honors. http://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/
For those of you who keep saying Snacks was overpaid for a 2 down lineman, you just don't get it. Snacks was a 2 down lineman because he was SO GOOD. He SHUT DOWN the middle on 1st and 2nd downs leaving 3rd and long (passing downs). If Snacks was just so-so on 1st and 2nd downs he'd have left a lot of 3rd and shorts, and he'd have been a 3 down lineman. And gotten paid less.
The Centers for the 'Skins, 'Boyz, and Eagles just looked at their twitter accts and mumbled "Ah fuck"
I feel like the Giants overpaid for him. Guess he couldn't turn it down when the Jets only offered less than 6 and he wouldn't even need to move or change stadiums. I hate seeing Harrison go to the Giants but he was overvalued because the rest of the line was stud-like.
This kind of reminds me of when we lost Jason Ferguson in free agency. Nonetheless it's a passing league and players like Harrison aren't as valuable as they used to be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If the $9.3M a year average is correct then Snacks is now the 93rd highest paid player in the NFL. If the total number to compare to is 1,696 (32 teams x top 53 salaries) then he is in the 94.52 percentile at this point and all it will take is a couple of veteran cuts in June above him to put him in the 95th percentile and at 3rd round. If he makes the Pro Bowl he'll be there. He hasn't been to the Pro Bowl yet but now he's a big money player who also has a big rep and his odds on going go way up. Also, I'm guessing that they do take position played into account. Some positions make less money than other positions but they still get taken high in the draft. They have to include some definition of how good a player is in terms of compensation compared to his peers. Otherwise C, NT, RG, TE, RB! would never give the highest compensation level unless the player was a generational superstar. Right now there is one LG and one RT and one TE and 2 RB's and no 3-4 NT's making more than Snacks. There is no way he's not worth the highest level of compensation in that situation. Also, just looking at the list I already see some vets who re-signed today who are below Snacks at this point. Haloti Ngata went from $12.2M to $6M. D'Brick will probably renegotiate down. Greg Hardy won't be above $9.3M on his next contract assuming he gets one. I think Snacks may get us a 3rd on the overall 95.01% without even including the Pro Bowl possibility. His agent did a hell of a job for him.
Which is how Woody wanted to rebuild the Jets - start with the DL because of what the NYG did in the SB.......Charlie Casserly was saying on the NFL Network that Deon Simon last years 7th round draft pick is the next Damon Harrison? And he meant the next Damon Harrison not the next NT.....
Really? Guess he was valuable to someone. Guess you don't watch enough football. How well did passing teams do in the playoffs? You need a running game still. Broncos forced teams to pass which allowed them to tear up opposing QB's in the pass game panthers did as well. You don't stop the run you are in for a long day. Passing is more more risky for turn overs then a good running game.
My only takeaway from Snacks is that drafting is so important you can hit in late rounds if you are smart and a little lucky We NEED to hit on more players. We need to improve our drafts. We can't cut 75% of picks every draft. The best teams in the league hit on various players. See Pats with douche Brady, see Broncos with 6th rounder for Tebow. See Packers, See Steelers. Etc We need deep quality drafts. Not all stars, but players who stick and players who contribute.
It's more complicated than that. Yes, it's a passing league so you want your defensive ends to get up field and pressure the QB. But that's only possible if the middle of the field is shut down by a dominant NT. I believe it was Mo who said his effectiveness at getting to the QB was due in large part to Snacks shutting down the middle. If your DEs have inside run support responsibilities on every snap, they lose a 1/2 step in getting to the QB. So while Snacks had very few sacks, his play in the middle led to many many more.
I agree ... to an extent. The defense left a lot of 3rd and longs, that's primarily the reason he was a 2 down player, yes... But Snacks was just one guy on that defense. I have no doubt he contributed to this defense's ability to stop the run but the question is how much of that was Wilkerson and others? Wilkerson got double teams all year. Did that help Harrison? With the Giants he's going to be the one getting all the double teams. I believe he's a good player and I am sad to see him go but you can't keep everyone when you got DLmen out the ass like the Jets do. I also believe, barring a trade of Wilkerson or something, that they can plug someone in that is cheaper and not see too much of a drop off. Maybe we aren't the number 1 rushing defense next year- - maybe 6th or 7th. That kind of drop off isn't going to make a big difference in their ability to win football games. Saving the money they are by not signing him- and loading up elsewhere, might.
I could be wrong, but I believe Snacks received the most dbl teams of anyone on the line. His power up the middle is too much for the center to take on all alone. Whichever gap snacks lined up in, he got the center and that guard, especially on running plays between the hash marks. Snacks was the top NT in the NFL (see his $9M/yr contract) and his play will be missed.
I believe you may be correct, if not, he was probably ranks near the top. A great find and was a huge success for the Jets. Now we move on and hopefully, we can get someone to fill in and quickly.
What's the point of drafting a player like him if your just gonna let him walk 3 years later?We should have resigned him during the season then traded him then we still would have had the money to tag Mo and do other things
I'm starting to warm up to the Forte signing a little bit, since we got him at a good value, and even though he's 30 we're clearly a win now team. SB or bust next year with aging stars Forte, Revis, Marshall, etc. .....but I would have really been happy if Mac could have also re-signed Damon Harrison. No surprise that the smart NY football franchise gets him, smh. Oh those Jets ... well interesting at least, we always seem to win the offseason headlines at least! Too bad the actual games don't go better, but hey, can't have it all huh? Overreaction maybe, but ugh... Damon Harrison and a backfield of Robinson and Powell (plus mid rd. draft pick) would have been better than losing Harrison and gaining Forte imo, but only time will tell.
