Da Brick or not Da Brick

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by James Hasty, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2011
    Messages:
    5,798
    Likes Received:
    3,251
    It's absolutely true. He regularly gets beat every single game.
     
    matt robinson 17 likes this.
  2. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,512
    Likes Received:
    902
    Most linemen get beat once or twice a game. Brick rarely gets dominated and then only by the truly elite.

    For the most part Geno has had plenty of time in the pocket last season.
     
  3. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,516
    Likes Received:
    936
    Stat wise he was middle of the road

    No questing he is declining but who out there is better

    Also I think playing next to shitty guards doesn't help either
     
  4. Jets Esq.

    Jets Esq. Guest

    With something like $55m in cap space it's kind of hard to ask him to take a pay cut with a straight face.

    He should still be decent for another 1 or 2 years, so I think the proper move is to start training up someone who might be able to take over for him down the road. Good left tackles usually don't hit free agency, so we should be developing a new guy.

    I like 'Brick, and in the meantime I don't think he's a weakness of the team, even if he's no longer a strength of the team.
     
  5. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    21,158
    Likes Received:
    8,027
    The perrenial pro bowler who isn't half as good as Mangold, bye bye Bricky
     
  6. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    8,960
    Likes Received:
    7,889
    The jets have a solid guy at LT, he has been healthy and is actually not that expensive this year. I agree that the Jets must draft someone to take his place, as I can't see him being here after this year however this year he has to be on the team.


    7/7/2010: Signed an eight-year, $73.6 million contract.

    The deal contains $34.8 million guaranteed, including a $1.6 million signing bonus, a first-year roster bonus of $3.1 million, and a second-year option bonus of $3.9 million.

    All but $5.3 million of the "guarantees," however, are guaranteed only for "skill" and not injury. An annual $750,000 workout bonus is available in years two through seven. The Jets paid Ferguson an additional $6.41 million "signing" bonus in the 2013 offseason.

    2014-2015: $5.95 million (+ $1 million reporting bonus),
    2016: $8.625 million (+ $1 million reporting bonus),
    2017: $11.275 million (+ $1 million reporting bonus),
    2018: Free Agent
     
  7. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,741
    Likes Received:
    126
    I believe Da Brick has only missed one SNAP his career. He is dependable and durable and I think some of his supposed decline can be attributed to having a turnstile next to him for the past couple years. The Jets should extend him but to a smaller per year charge. Push some of that $11mil+ to later years and give him security. I think he's got above average play in him for another 5 years. An above average LT with no injury history is harder to find than most people think.
     
  8. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    36,684
    Likes Received:
    30,193
    What? That's insane! That's the same stupid crap that Tanny did. Did you learn nothing from his mistakes? Doing that kind of stupid crap keeps older, bad players stuck on the roster because they become uncuttable. As it is now, they can cut him and have cap savings.

    His decline in play may be partially be explained by having poor LGs next to him, but when he is beaten by a pass rusher to the outside or whiffs on a block in the rushing attack, it has nothing to do with poor LG play. He should be given a clean slate with the new CS. If the Jets have a quality player beside him at LG and his play markedly improves, fine, but if not, the fact that he is durable shouldn't be the reason to continue overpaying him and having the offense struggle due to his poor play.
     
    Red Menace likes this.
  9. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    8,960
    Likes Received:
    7,889
    I'm willing to give him one more year, but 5, dang that's crazy, he'll be in a wheelchair in 5 years.
     
  10. jetfan59

    jetfan59 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,188
    Likes Received:
    457
    I was only comparing the way both of them will shoot up the draft boards. Peat should not be picked at 6. I don't think he is the best OT coming out this year.
     
  11. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,955
    Likes Received:
    5,223
    Clemmings or Collins would do nicely.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    36,684
    Likes Received:
    30,193
    Did the Clemmings you like play in the East-West Shrine Bowl game yesterday? If so, I want no part of him. He was awful and beaten like a drum.
     
  13. jetfannerd

    jetfannerd Trolls

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2014
    Messages:
    577
    Likes Received:
    212
    Nope....

    The Jets are going to have so much cap space this season after they cut Harvin and and CJ, and Brick is by better than any LT on the market.

    I could see them cutting Giacominni however.
     
  14. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,955
    Likes Received:
    5,223
    Not with half of his 2015 salary guaranteed.
     
  15. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    4,377
    Likes Received:
    2,369
    I just don't want an OL as our first rounder..
     
  16. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Messages:
    2,279
    Likes Received:
    805
    Jets should trade him for a draft pick while they still can get some value. The team is in full rebuilding mode for the next 1-2 years and it makes no sense to hang on to him during that time.
     
  17. jetfan59

    jetfan59 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,188
    Likes Received:
    457
    No. He is talking about TJ Clemmings from Pitt, who is playing in the senior Bowl.
     
  18. jetfan59

    jetfan59 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,188
    Likes Received:
    457
    Yeah. They are my top 2 OTs right now.
     
  19. 518

    518 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    1
    If the best OT in the draft is there at #6 we should absolutely take him. Brick is declining, he used to be able to stop guys like Cameron Wake and DeMarcus Ware but I saw him get lit up against any elite pass rusher this year.
     
  20. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    6,972
    Likes Received:
    5,382
    He's capable enough for another year.

    By all means draft OT but I'd be upgrading the guards first.
     

Share This Page