That would be the dumbest route right there. Cutting Deck and keeping Marshall. I am not saying they couldn't do that I just believe it would be a terrible decision. Cut them both, keep them both, or send only Marshall packing but to cut a team guy like Decker only to keep a prick like Marshall, yikes
He pressed that button in 2015...can't realistically go down that road again and expect anything different. He should make the necessary cuts, fill a few spots with good FA's that are not in the later part of their careers, and also has to have a great draft with immediate impact players. He also needs to hope that players drafted in previous 2 drafts make a bigger impact
When it comes to the veterans Harris, Forte, and Carpenter all look like Keepers. I would also hold onto Winters and Richardson even though they could both end up coming off the bench. I think we keep either Marshall or Decker but not both. If we do keep Richardson we should start him at DE and sit Wilkerson until he is back to 100% healthy.
That "Bozo GM" as you call him did a great job of structuring those contracts so that after 2 years we had great flexibility to cut those players & create great cap room if we needed to. If you recall, - Mike T. gave Mark Sanchez a apology extension with HUGE $$ that tied our hands for years.
Exactly, Sheldon is in the Santonio category now. Multiple drug offenses, locker room issues, violates team rules, not to mention his production is way down AND looking for new contract = no better than a 4th round, more likely a 5th or worse. Guys like Sheldon never get traded for fair value, there's reasons they're available that have nothing to do with their overall talent. If Mac pulls a heist and gets better than a 4th, I will be absolutely floored...
Yea if anything Sheldon stays but could be traded at the 2017 deadline to a Super Bowl contender that has injurys at DE for maybe a 4th or 5th if he plays with some fire under his ass next year
Brian Winters is awful. Just because he managed to improve from F- to D+ last year does not mean he's a) good, b) going to continue to improve, or c) better than the Jets can get out of a 5th round draft pick if they actually do their scouting homework for a change.
I think Decker or Marshall go but not both. Decker's injury recovery or lack of could change which does go. They can squeeze another year out of Mangold if he wants to re-structure. I think they'll work it out not so much because they need him as for how it allows them to approach the OL re-build. Winters, Wesley Johnson and Carpenter can hold down the guard positions and allow Shell to compete for the RT slot. That means they can put their focus solely on LT in the draft and if another OL becomes available either later in the draft or FA (if young say a kid just off his rookie deal) they grab him as depth. The questions are can Shell perform well at RT and can they bring back Winters at a reasonable figure as he's one of those young guys just off his rookie deal that other teams would love to scoop up. Harris is a catch-22. He's still a top run stopper but as many have said he couldn't cover a table. If the Jets run D is a force teams will pass and it negates Harris's strength so who needs him. If they are getting run on he has great value to them but it means they stink in the trenches (i.e. no suitable replacements for Sheldon and/or Mo Wilk if they are dealt) and should be playing the younger guys to get them experience while the team is in re-build mode. If both run and pass D are middle of the pack is where they may opt to keep him 1 more year. Teams generally over assess their talent so I assume Mac thinks they will have a stout run D without him so he goes. Time will tell if he's one of those better a year early than a year late guys like they correctly did dumping Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones.
I agree on possibly keeping Harris, but not Marshall. He was part of the problem in the locker room, drops too many passes and is too accepting and lackadaisical about it, would take too many snaps away from the young WRs who need further development, and is a luxury the Jets can't afford. He would give the Jets $7.5 million in cap space. We'll be fine without him. I think we can get something in return for him in a trade. The Jets could use that pick to further help STs.
As pointed out already, why would you cut Forte which would be a negative on the cap. Just give Bilal the 1st string designation and cut Forte's carries to keep him fresh. Marshall and Decker are pretty reasonably priced, I would certainly keep 1 of them and really would lean toward keeping both. One cut that would piss me off would be Mangold, the guy has been a rock in the middle for years and pretty confident he will come back from this injury. The only reason he had to go on IR was he rushed back from the original injury. I would extend him 1 or 2 years at a little lower salary but with part of his 2017 salary as a roster bonus so his cap hit would spread evenly over the 3 years. I think he would go for that as it might be lower salary but he gets more than his current $9M guaranteed. He would be 35 at the end of 3 more seasons, don't see why he wouldn't be still playing at a high level.
Marshall has to go. If we can get a late pick for him, great. If not, cut him. Richardson needs to be dealt for anything we can get (mid-round pick). I'd like to see Decker back, but it's dependent on the injury. Revis would have to take a paycut, and we'd have to be unable to draft or sign a replacement or else he's gone. Most likely he's gone. Similarly, Mangold & Harris stay for one more year if we're unable to draft or sign their replacements. While the best solution would be to cut all the old vets, suck & get a high pick, most likely replacing all of them will be done over a 2 year span.
Maybe compared to the Jets fill-in tackles. Not compared to starting guards in the NFL. Not by my eyeball test, anyway. Maybe I got spoiled watching too many Raiders and Titans games this year.
This may sound somewhat idiotic, but what about trading Sheldon and picking up JPP? He made it clear that he isn't going to be signing another 1 year deal. JPP is a freak of nature, even with 7 fingers. At least you know he already reached his lowest point and will no longer be doing stupid shit.
Totally agree with you regarding Forte. Decker is a team player and solid. Marshall was part of the locker room issues, drops too many passes, trading him would give the Jets $7.5 million in cap space, and would allow them to further develop the young WRs. IMO he should go. The only question with Decker is whether he can make a full recovery from the two surgeries and when he'll be ready. Regarding Mangold, I agree with another poster that it's a business and we have to stop looking at it as fans. His body is starting to break down on him. It's uncertain if he'd be able to play a full schedule again next year. OTOH, replacing 3 OL starters would be tough. If he'll come back for $4.5 - $5 million next season, then I say bring him back, otherwise, cut him loose. Extending him would be the worst possible thing they could do. There's no way he'll last 2-3 more years and it would just be building dead cap space for the future.
Sorry but I have to agree with TwoHeads - if the Jets are going to resign Winters, it better be to a very, very team friendly contract. At best, he's good cannon fodder.
