Sanchez is better than Cutler and it's not close. Geno may be better than Cutler, at least there is still some unknown w/ Geno, we know what Cutler is- a bad QB.
I want a one year stopgap that can hold us over until there are better options available. It could be worse than Cutler, but not much worse. He's a bad QB with a terrible attitude and a bloated contract that runs through at LEAST 2016. What about that is supposed to be appealing? There are way too many people here that want answers overnight and that's just not possible unless you're a contender and free agents/trade candidates are itching to play for you. That's not us. We need to build from the ground up. If you draft a Petty or a Hundley this year, let them sit behind Geno or preferably a stopgap vet that can make us semi-competitive but also buy time for the progression of our young QB. If you don't do that this year, you have a guy like Connor Cook you can target next year... Cardale Jones, Braxton Miller, etc. And if you wanna wait until next offseason, there are some nice young QBs available that are unrestricted FAs. Bradford, Foles, Tannehill, Cam, RG3. Bottom line: if there were a good QB available, why would their current team be trying to trade them? No one jettisons a good QB unless they have a youngster waiting in the wings to take over. See: Favre, Peyton, Brees, etc.
Man... I'm always right there with you until you go full blown retard with the Sanchez stuff. Just stop.
he's better than Cutler, it's not close. Mark is so much better than Jet fans or most fans think. is he great? of course not but he's a quality NFL QB something Jay Cutler is not.
You're right, it's not close. But not in the direction you want it to be. Either way, I'm leaving it alone from here on out. Everyone knows about your weird bond with Sanchez... it's better to let a sleeping dog lie I guess.
nothing weird about it, I don't use fantasy #s to evaluate players. I like players that you can win with.
You are entitled to complain about Cutler's attitude. And even say IN YOUR OPINION he doesnt care about winning. But that's merely your opinion. Where you are dead wrong is to compare his level of play to Smith's. He is a far better Qb. Show me one objective metric that says otherwise. You can't. And Smith does have an attitude problem. It started the day he was drafted. You can ignore the litany you should well know by now. Suit yourself. In any event as I have said about fifty times by now, you critics all assume a trade would have to involve taking over the contract as is. Wrong.
Yes it could be. I see some possibility of redemptoin in Cutler's situation. He's played for a number of bad coaches. He no doubt knows his contract is an issue. Perhaps he is beyond hope, but imo in the right situation he could show all his critics wrong, and that is an incentive for him. He knows he will be 32 on Opening Day. He's relatively healthy right now, and has a few years left to make it happen. Since we can't count on Mariota, and next year's draft looks bad, other than perhaps the more fragile Bradford I dont know of any Qb out there who is better suited to get the Jets through the next few years during which with some luck htey might find a truly suitable prospect in the draft. Yet people whine about his media image. Whatever.
It's not my opinion on Cutler's attitude, its the opinion of numerous players & coaches who have worked with him, numerous media types with knowledge of the situation, practically anyone who follows the game.... I never said he wasn't a far better QB than Geno Smith, I said he is grossly mediocre while acknowledging Smith is NOT, so that in itself is agreeing with you. Lastly, we all assume that a trade would have to involve taking over his contract because that's how 95+% of trades in this league work as well as the contract being the largest reason Chicago has put him on the trade block in the first place
Cutler has his defenders, and I think he has been unlucky in terms of the coaches he has played for. I never said he was a poster boy for Mr. Congeniality. But there are plenty of players in the league who I probably would not like on a personal level who get it done on the field. You have a strange definition of grossly mediocre. He's roughly at the 15 mark among starting NFL Qb's. So he's not elite, but then you could do far worse. Chicago probably is not going to trade him, but his contract is atypical. And the fact that it was the work of the prior regime is another reason why, if he is traded, he would be. The new regime can say they want to get a fresh start. For all my talk about him, I may be right that he won't be traded, but I concede I don't know. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.
I guess that would be possible, but the question is, how desperate are the Bears to get rid of Jay Cutler? (We don't know.) If they'd be willing to pay a large portion of his guaranteed salary for 2015 and 2016, would they then expect an early round draft pick? If so, I wouldn't go for it - Cutler will be 32 in April, and he's mediocre at best. We need our early round picks to help rebuild the team going forward, rather than for a short-term boost when we're far away from contender status. But if they were totally desperate to get rid of him, and just wanted to get $8m or $9m/year off their books this year and next year without expecting much else in return, I'd probably do it. The New York media would hate him, though. Brandon Marshall also said some negative things about Cutler last season, so pairing them up again might not be an awesome idea. I think the best spot for Culter would probably be the Bills. They already have a great defense, and the Buffalo media wouldn't give him a hard time for being an emotionless robot.
The Cutler deal was a classic case of the Bears outsmarting themselves. They didn't give him a huge bonus, instead opting for the "deal guarantees a season in advance" model. However now they're stuck with guarantees instead of the big upfront payment and the dead money hit will be just as bad if they have to cut him before 2017.
I have a feeling that the NFLPA and the League is going to look a lot closer at these back loaded contracts. Players rarely if ever see the final year as that money usually isn't guaranteed and if the player is retained, the contract is reworked anyway.
Well Cutler's agent got him through the minefield on this one. He's going to get paid no matter what. He's currently guaranteed $26M in 2015 and 2016 no matter what happens. Good job by his representation.
Hey I am wondering why this thread wasn't moved to the NFL forum with the Drew Brees thread? There's probably other ones that should be moved too. Not telling you how to do your job but it would fit the content
