Yea its gonna be tricky to keep both Revis and Landry with the way things are already looking. so if we end up giving Revis the deal he wants theres no way we will be able to give Landry the kind of money he is looking for. You also have to consider this was Landrys first full 16 game season without being injured in years, who knows what next year will bring. Was it a flukey year for him??? maybe Bell was good for us though i wouldn't mind seeing him stay
Oh, I see as far as with the Titans game. The Bangles won more games. I was obviously wrapped up in the Colts to know the full details of the Jets last season. But considering the whole Jet offense last season, you guys still faught yall asses off and pulled out enough games to get to the door and knock! What's the story with that McElroy kid? What's he all about? Is he Sanchez 2.0 or something? Is he legit?
McElroy lacks the physical talent to start in the NFL. He could be a good backup if you need someone to fill in for a game or two and a good guy to run the scout team.
I'm really hoping Idzik is not foolish enough to enter next season with Sanchez as the incumbent starter.
There's not much wiggle room and if you bring in a Jason Campbell type or another draft pick to fight for the job with Sanchez and McElroy, if Sanchez wins what can you do? He would be on a very short leash but if he wins the job, he wins the job And reading through the responses, I underestimated the amount question marks we have. I guess we could make a run at 8-8, but to get to 10-6 or 9-7 would require some breaks (missed FG, high fumble recovery rate, etc) and an injury free year.
They have to do everything necessary to bring in a QB, with the intention of starting him. If Sanchez works out of the #3 spot, and earns a starting gig then fine. But he cannot be penciled in as the starter with no real competetion again. Have to learn from the past. The only way we are competitive this year is if QB play improves dramatically..,.whoever the starter ends up being. Personally, i wouldn't put all my eggs in the Sanchez basket again and expect a good season.
At very best we are an 8-8 team. The demolition phase is not complete. After next year when Wrecks is gone and we can shed the rest of the dead weight off this team is when the resurrection can begin.
I have not given up hope that Sanchez will be traded. I know this will require that a good chunk of his salary has to be paid down as part of a trade, but that is already a sunk cost. Time to move on to the post Muck era.
I mean you bring in Campbell/Orton type, then let them compete right? Or you would straight hand the job to whoever we sign in FA? There isn't much hope for a QB. If a QB falls to us in the draft, and we pick him at #9, still then I would rather that QB start by sitting and learning and once Sanchez messes up bigtime, the new kid comes in. I have used the put eggs in the Sanchez basket phrase before too, I must have gotten it from you. I think by bringing in a Campbell lets say, all the eggs are still not in the Sanchez basket. Yeah, Sanchez might win the competition, but if he comes out and throws 1 TD and 5 INTs in his second game, you yank him and don't look back as you put Campbell in. Hence we have a backup we are confident with and willing to go to immediately. Short leash for Sanchez =/= all the eggs in the Sanchez basket. I just don't see how we do it and who would take him really. If we find a way, good for Idzik, but I personally think we aren't trading him.
Mark's going to be here next season. He may or may not start depending on the competition. People are better off accepting this reality now. I just don't see how we can trade him or cut him without getting raped salary cap wise.
Who are these people you speak of??? Who doesn't know Mark Sanchez is gonna be here next season??? And if someone doesn't know that than they aren't paying attention. The chances we trade him are 25% yes 75% no due to the market for him and the way hes been playing not to mention his ridiculous contract
I don't want to go into much detail on Mark (we all do enough as it is), but some think it's smart to cut him outright this season - it's just not worth it. It has been talked about in this thread.
In general i agree with this. I'd prefer a Matt Moore, or even an unknown with upside to Campbell though. I'd also go into the offseason with the new guy getting the starting reps, albeit a competition, and let Sanchez climb out of the backup role rather than other way around. Sanchez has never actually had to compete for the starting spot, and has been handed the role every year. That was a mistake on the Jets part which they should not continue repeating.
Yeah I was just throwing Campbell's name out there, Moore would be interesting too or someone with upside. Fair enough makes sense. I must have misread your first post. And yeah, Sanchez never had to compete for it. We never had him pushed. Who knows if that would have changed things, but he knew the job was his everyday of his first 3 years.
yea it def wouldn't be worth it to cut him this year, i have to check doesnt his contract expire in 2014 anyway?
Sanchez is under contract to the Jets until 2016. He's an easy cut after 2013 though, just $4.8M in dead money left at that point.
With Sanchez, 2 or 3 wins. Without Sanchez, 3 or 4 wins. We are so low on overall talent on this team, we need Sanchez to lead us to minimal wins and a top 5 draft pick in 2014 that can be used as such or trade down as seen fit. Any player on the team that can lead to draft picks - see ya. Draft picks, draft picks, draft picks. Been waiting now for over 40 years to see the Jets in the Super Bowl, what the hell is 3 more - if they do it right.
I think some might be more negative about the Jets future that necessary. This past year we played most of the season with a patched up offense and a rookie WR as the primary target when healthy. The OL had trouble and Sparano game plan did nothing but make matters worse. Sanchez or not I see the offense appreciably better next season. If the middle of the D improves ever so slightly with more speed and youth we should hold our own and finish a bit better than 2012. If we get Sanchez to play like 2009 and maximize his roll out opportunities then we could pull off a couple of more wins.