That can also be looked at as another positive for 2013 though. Not like Calvin Pace, Bart Scott or Bryan Thomas did anything special in 2012. Odds are their replacements will all be better. Hard to play worse.
I don't see how McClain is a pipe dream, if he's cut from the Oakland Raiders. They are getting hit with the cap penalty not us. Give him an incentive related contract and let's see what the kid's got. he won't demand much money if this were to happen because he has nothing going for him in that department. We need good linebackers. McClain might be the best fit for us. People are talking about using the 9th overall for a defensive player. I'd take that 9th pick and draft Warmack right off the bat.
I like your optimism, but let's not get crazy. Do you know how many times we have won 11 games in a season the last 14 years? The answer is once. With the cast as it stands right now? Which means not having both of our starting safetys, our starting TE, our starting RB, and two of our starting lineman under contract all while being way over the cap? We have to cut additional starters just to get under the cap, then we need to find replacements not only for them, but for the starters who will leave in free agency. Are we just expecting Hill to become a good WR overnight, and Holmes to come back from his injury 100%? I am not saying we can't be competitive next year if we nail the draft and find some bargain free agents, but even thinking about winning 11 games and getting a bye / home game is ridiculous. 8 or 9 wins is a more realistic dream.
All depends on the QB. Jets are a 10 win team with an good/average QB. Rex's defense, regardless of personnel, will always be good enough to win you 10 games but is offense is what leads to 8-8 or 6-10 seasons. It's all about the QB on offense. If you had a guy like Jay Cutler with this o-line and Holmes, Hill, Braylon, Kerley, Greene, Powell, McKnight - you'd be going to the playoffs every year like the Ravens.
I'd recommend reading about how the salary cap works. The Jets are not in a position to bring in whatever random player they want.
The flip side is we might end up with Garrett McIntyre starting next year... that's a scary thought. Pace wasn't awful, but he wasn't worth his contract. Same with Scott. Both guys who would be receiving praise rather than scorn if their contracts were about half of what they were. The Jets LB core was stout vs the run. It was against any sort of passing game OR mobile team (fast RBs) that they completely fell flat on their faces. To fix that we need youth, big and fast and strong so that the dropoff vs a heavy running game is minimal but simultaneously show improvement vs areas of weakness.
Not at all. They need to spend their money wisely and it needs to complement what they do in the draft. They can't have an offseason disaster like last year where they extended/resigned a QB, signed one, traded for another one, and then traded away one. They need to have a plan and stick to it, not get distracted
this isn't a random player, this is filling a need. I'm talking about after he clears waivers anyway because no way a team signs him with that contract - it's one of the highest for that position. He won't demand the same money no way in hell. He's prob one of the more talented ILB in that division, I don't see how that is a random player. A team that lacks talent like us? 2 years 2 million? uh yeah? fill with incentives? uh yeah? put some clauses in and were fine. sign me the hell up. If the money is cheap, you bet your ass he should be on the Jets. If I'm wrong about the salary cap when it comes the waiver wire, then my bad
Of course they COULD be. It depends what moves they make. Any speculation at this point is pure guesswork and not even relevant to final product, so it's pointless.
some wild ideas going around in this thread about the jets linebackers our linebackers were the number one reason that the defense played as poorly as they have at times last season. unable to cover, unable to set the edge, unable to tackle, unable to get to the qb... i dont know what the teams plans are, but i would imagine that it involves upgrading the lb unit in some way, whether its speed (something that was severely lacking last season) or a pass rusher, while attempting to get younger. this season they might be trying a youth injection at the position to see if they cant find anyone that sticks.
People want to pay Landry 6 or 7 million / year instead. I'd rather get 1 or 2 linebacker(s) and draft a safety with that cash.
I like McClain.. and I know we can fit him into the cap. He's still on his rookie deal and after we cut who we have to cut and restructure a contract or two there will be enough money especially if we don't keep Keller or Landry. I would even think about trading Harris and starting McClain and Davis. Their both young, fast and can cover much better than Harris.
I agree with you. I think we can all agree that Landry is a beast and a joy to watch, but for $6-7 mil I'd rather get McClain, trade Harris and draft a OLB. This draft is supposedly loaded on Safety's too. I think Harris has something in hid contract that gives us a big cap hit if we trade him, but I read that if we restructure first then he can be traded. I would like to see McClain and Davis starting next year. I'm not too big of a fan of David Harris.
We can compete with the core players we will retain, but the big question is how we will add to that. I strongly believe we were a playoff team last year with a more consistent QB. Even with Revis and Holmes going down. We literally threw a few games away last year.
Let him clear waivers, no team will pick him up with that contract. We can sign him to our own. Defensive players want to play for Rex. McClain has got more talent than any of our linebackers. Not a fan of Harris? I like Harris I think he can play that Bart Scott role, but he is making a lot of money. He's making close to Patrick Willis cash. If it's for the betterment of the team, then I would agree with a Davis - McClain lineup. McClain can do it all man. None of our linebackers can cover for shit. This has been an issue for 2 years now. I don't see Keller coming back and Landry ain't coming back for 6 or 7 mil. Youth moment continues ...
I'm not questioning McClain as a player. Further, the Jets do need help at LB. With that said, the new direction of the Jets moving forward have to prioritize to this effect: 1) New QB (acquired via draft, 1st round preferably, to be groomed into franchise QB... can happen this year or next). 2) Offensive playmakers (having a QB won't help much if they've got no one to throw to). 3) Offensive line (Sanchez was getting abused the last two years... can't allow this with a new franchise QB). 4) Pass rusher at LB (this can be inside or out, but presumptuously OLB would be a better find since this is more of an impact position AND Davis is currently slated to play inside). 5) Young monster nose tackle. (Anchor for a nasty defense that the Jets don't currently have). 6) Depth. McClain has 6.5 sacks since he came into the NFL. He's an ok player who doesn't truly fit the bill as far as pass rushing LB goes. We need a guy who can put up 12+ a year. I don't believe McClain is that sort of talent. At best, you fit him into group 4. More realistically, group 6. He'd definitely start for the Jets, but as far as needs AND team building is concerned, he's a minor blip on the radar.
Its not that I'm not a fan of Harris because of his play, its more because of what he's getting paid. If Davis turns out to be good and we were to pair him up with McClain.. that sounds scary. Their both really quick and could cover. @edge, he's not a specific Rush LB so those sack numbers shouldn't even matter.
All the Jets need to do to be good next year is resolve QB, RB, WR, TE, G, LB and S this off-season via the draft and a very cramped free agency process. Just think about it for a minute and then ask yourself why you would over-promise for them and then be disappointed when they under-delivered on your fantasies. The Oakland Raiders, the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Cleveland Browns are the only teams in the AFC with less chance to compete next year than the Jets and I'm not 100% sure the Browns are actually that bad.
Yea well i have us winning the Superbowl next year at home so......................................................................... i also have $1000.00 dollar bet on it to so im fucked either way i guess, Ive felt for a long time this was gonna happen call it destiny wishfull thinking or whatever you like,i call it poetic justice since it's been 100 years since our superbowl win it would only be right to win it at home, i belive in that "meant to be" bullshit so call me an asshole if u want but when we get there just remeber who booked it!
