The first thing off the top of my head, how about the pats defense allows scores at the same rate of opposing drives/points scored for each category you've defined. This would mean that regardless of the situation the defense is performing at the same level based on the #of drives/points scored ratio. I'm not saying that IS the case, but without sufficient data we can't say one way or the other.
This isn't 2007, the pats are not trying to blow out teams and set records to prove a point anymore. And whether it is BB's strategy or not, i don't think it is fair to expect the same performance out of a defense ahead by three scores and one playing a close game. And while I admit that we have allowed some of these teams a chance to win late in games, I truly think that this is just shitty execution in prevent defenses, which doesn't really equal shitty execution under normal circumstances. If you watch those games and look at our formations, it is clear that we are trying only to take away the 15+ yard plays, specifically near the sidelines. The fact that teams are scoring on that defense in 5 plays is certainly worrysome, but I don't see those mistakes occurring in normal game scenarios. If I remember right, we are the only team not to allow a 40+ yard play or something like that. Maybe a biased take on things, but whatever.
So basically option 1 except the points allowed/drive rate is same for with lead and without. I guess that is a sound theory conceptually. Maybe later I will spend some time looking at the numbers, because I really don't believe it to be the case. Off the top of my head, it seems like it would be real hard to accumulate leads if we were allowing points at that rate without a lead.
Well if it is option one that is fine with me. The Pats won't be jumping out to a 14 point lead unless there is some sort of disaster for the Jets. What is gonna happen to this Pats D that is used to letting up in the second half of games when the game is tied 7-7 at the beginning of the 3rd quarter? If history is any indication they will fold.
Against the Steelers and Chargers they gave up a lot more points in the 4th quarter than the rest of the game. Other than that it is mostly the 2nd/3rd quarter they're giving up points. Code: 1 2 3 4 ========================== 0 3 14 7 0 10 11 7 3 13 7 7 7 0 7 0 3 7 7 3 [B]3 0 0 17[/B] 0 7 3 8 10 7 7 10 [B]0 3 0 23[/B] 0 14 0 14 7 10 7 0 -------------------------- 33 74 63 96 The do a much better job in the first quarter than any other quarter.
"True- but it's interesting that the Jets have a better point differential than the pats... " "I think the most important thing you're trying to say is even though the Pats defense is ranked lowest in the AFC (second worst in the NFL), they still suck." "The Pats defense is only slightly less pathetic than the average Pats fan. Rather than twisting the twisting the stats to make you feel better, just go to NFL.com and check the rankings. They pay people that are good and unbiased to keep track of the shit. Pats defense, last in the AFC, second worst in the whole NFL according to their statistics. Now go back into the closet with Tom Terrific. " "Why bring the Chargers into this? They have the top rated offense. The pats offense is ranked lower than the Jets.... BY THE NFL. The pats have the worse point differential because the LOST the JETS by 14, and the LOST to the BROWNS by 16. The Jet's combined losses amount to 10 total points." Let me summarize your next post so that you don't have to bother writing it: "PATS SUCK, TOM BRADY IS GAY, JETS ROCK MY WORLD!!!!!!!"
No, it's not basically option one. Your option one makes a conclusion that doesn't match my post. If they give up points per drive at the same rate then you can't blame it on the defense playing differently. It's more like their offense compiles points at a faster rate than the shitty defense allows.
My point being that you can't throw those two games out of consideration as though they are insignificant
Even if you were to say those totals are anomalies you wouldn't take away ALL the points. teams still score in the 4th quarter.
The fact that we have allowed so many fourth quarter points falls right into my theory. The fact that most of them came in only two games (which you pointed out) does nothing to change that.
I didn't mean to throw them out. My point was that those are the only games where what you're saying appears to be the case.
I can understand that point, but those two games factor into the rankings in a huge way. When I say that we allow lots of points and yardage with big leads, obviously the 40 points that we allowed with leads in two games are part of the reason that I am saying that.
You should check out patsforum. There's a whole bunch of idiots that use selective stats to try to pretend the offense doesn't suck. But they still do (suck).
So as a Patriots fan that I assume has watched every Pats game this year, do you think your defense has done well outside those two games? Take those two games out and you still allow the same 24 points per game you do with them.
