Colin Kaepernick a NYJ?

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  1. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    The point is why would they trade a proven young qb? Despite Kaps flaws he's a decent qb.
     
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  2. Big Blocker

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    I would think the situation with Richardson makes a Wilkerson signing less likely. But still possible.
     
  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    How would it be less likely? Sheldon has had already what 2 mess ups? I agree, we prob won't see any signings this off-season, but next off-season no doubt about it.
     
  4. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah not really following on how Richardsons situation makes signing Wilkerson less likely??
     
  5. Charlie Kelly

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    Probably because Sheldon's stock just dropped into the basement so he'll have a lot less leverage than Wilk in negotiating a huge money contract with this hanging over his head, or at least that's the likely theory
     
  6. Jetsruby

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    I can't tell if I would love or hate having Kaep. I'm not yet a full believer that he can be a franchise QB. I think the Jets really need an accurate pocket passer rather than a guy that relies on athleticism.

    While athletic QBs have had some success, eventually there comes a time when the team needs them to step up and be a good passer, and they just aren't good enough. Kaep was simply not good enough in the Superbowl and he fell flat in the 2013 NFC Championship game. Having a running QB is only beneficial when your O-line and Running-game are top notch.

    I'd much rather see Bryce Petty take the reigns.
     
  7. Br4d

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    The only thing that's going to effect Richardson's negotiation posture 2 years up is his play. He's going to be expensive. The question is whether he's going to be asking too much as a good player or a great one. If it's the former the Jets will let him go and if it's the latter they'll do whatever seems appropriate based on their current roster and cap situations.
     
  8. NoodleArm

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    It's definitely the off season. Here's a slightly relevant article from the ESPN NFC West Q&A: "Was 49ers QB Colin Kapernick Exposed Last Season?"

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    Today's question: Much has been made of Colin Kaepernick changing his mechanics this offseason. Is he still seen as a dual threat who can win games by himself, or was he exposed last year and, with some of the sheen off him, has he been essentially figured out -- especially with the departure of Jim Harbaugh?

    Josh Weinfuss, Arizona Cardinals: Last season was eye-opening for defenses that couldn’t figure out Kaepernick previously. But he’s still considered a dual-threat quarterback who can win games by himself. Defenses identified ways to keep him contained and frustrate him, and it cost the Niners, who allowed a league-high 52 sacks of Kaepernick. But he still completed 60.5 percent of his passes for a respectable 3,369 yards and 19 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Even though he rushed for only one touchdown, he had the second-most rushing yards among quarterbacks (639) on 104 carries. He can still get yards and first downs (tied for third among quarterbacks with 28 last season). The loss of Harbaugh will definitely impact the creativity in San Francisco’s offense, but he’s still a dual threat.

    Nick Wagoner, St. Louis Rams: Kaepernick has generally been pretty good against the Rams, at least when the Niners have protected him. Last year, Kaepernick’s woes against the Rams were more a product of a lack of protection than anything else. In seven career games against the Rams, he’s managed a passer rating of 102.7 and a QBR of 58.8. But last year’s games offered a prime example of how good he can be against St. Louis when protected and how he struggles when he’s not. In the Niners’ 31-17 win in St. Louis in Week 6, Kaepernick was not sacked and threw for 343 yards and three touchdowns without being sacked for a QBR of 93.5. Three weeks later, in the Niners’ 13-10 loss to the Rams, Kaepernick threw for 237 yards and a touchdown but was sacked eight times for a QBR of 13.4.

    Terry Blount, Seattle Seahawks: Kaepernick’s problem isn't his physical mechanics; it’s his mental mechanics. Here’s the stat that tells you all you need to know: Kaepernick was last in the NFC last season in fourth-quarter passer rating at 60.3, but his overall passer rating was 86.4. In other words, Kaepernick tends to make bad decisions with the game on the line. Four of his 10 interceptions last season came in the fourth quarter. His yards per play went from 7.4 in the first three quarters to 5.85 in the final quarter. His mechanics didn’t change in the fourth quarter, but his thinking process did.
     
  9. Br4d

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    Kaepernick has like the 6th or 7th best aggregate QBR since ESPN started keeping the stat. He's like 64 and change over three plus seasons as a starter. His QBR is *higher* than Russell Wilson's over that span.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    "Here’s the stat that tells you all you need to know: Kaepernick was last in the NFC last season in fourth-quarter passer rating at 60.3, but his overall passer rating was 86.4. In other words, Kaepernick tends to make bad decisions with the game on the line."

    Holy shit that's bad.

    But ftr Kaep is going nowhere until next off season at the earliest. so even as an off season topic, this remains quite low on my personal interest meter.
     
  11. Jetsruby

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    Kaep = money. Geno is getting pennies. This helps the team afford players like Revis. Kaep will want a restructured contract if he's traded. Not worth that cap hit imo.
     
  12. Jetaho

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    KILL THIS THREAD WITH FIRE!
     
  13. NoodleArm

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    But it's the off season :(
     
  14. Footballgod214

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    I rather kill the offseason with fire and start our first game this Sunday
     
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  15. NoodleArm

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    A summer developmental league (USFL 2.0?) would be so good right now.
     
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  16. Innocenti

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    But Wilk's worth still hasn't changed and his next contract still will be comparable to contracts signed by other players of the same calibur + whatever adjustment time causes.

    The only thing that's changed is the Jets ability to pay him. Wilk was going to get his money either way be it free agency of the Jets. Now it's more likely coming from the Jets.
     
  17. Big Cat

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  18. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I'm one of the few but I'm all for trying to turn shit to gold at the QB position especially when the athleticism and arm is there. We've been teased too long with shitty quarterback results to settle on Fitzpatrick as some type of solution further then one year or saying a hail mary that Petty turns into Russell Wilson.

    Bring Kaep in for a late pick. He's got a very easy to cut salary and if he sucks balls in camp you can cut ties with him like you would've a Zac Stacy.

    You don't take a team to the Superbowl without some resemblance of NFL starting calibre talent. If they get that call against the Ravens and Kaep wins how is he viewed today? No way he ever gets benched right?
     
  19. Garrison Nauman

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    Could not agree more
     
  20. MJK

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    Kap is the one reclamation project QB I would give a shot but only if he is cut or for a late round pick...Mo and 1st is insane for a guy who was just benched for Blaine Gabbert.
     

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