Coaching Staff lost this game

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    He also wears very shiny rocks during games in his ears.
     
  2. Royal Tee

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    I agree w/the Majority here... While I love REX and Like MM, they didn't shine.
    Rex needs to realize that we play better in a Zone @ times and when they have certain personnel on the field we need to zone it out.
    Rex disguises it also so they don't read Zoner at the snap...

    MM, Like him but the question right now is this.
    Is he calling certain plays because he knows where we are weak or is he Just a Mad Man at times?...
    Ironically, It's the balls to the walls approach I love lol..

    Truth is, Geno again Needs to put the Machismo away!! But so do the Coaches at certain Times.
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Tee, my biggest criticism is that Geno just doesn't want to take a sack. He should have taken one on the INT, but the main one was the replay down where they overturned the fumble.

    He should have tucked it and taken the loss on both plays, but he wants to be the savior.
     
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  4. Br4d

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    This is a common problem with young players. You just hope they grow out of it as the NFL pounds them a bit. John Elway got benched over and over again by Dan Reeves his first season and early in his second because he had a tendency to make bad throws under pressure and he wouldn't pull the ball down when he needed too and take a sack. The immortal Scott Stankavage got 18 passes in the second game of Elway's second season because Reeves was determined to show Elway that anybody could look bad if given enough opportunity and Elway didn't have a monopoly on that quality.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Elway is the exception to many rules. Who are the other common franchise QBs?
     
  6. Royal Tee

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    Preachin to the choir Byz.. totally agree... said this last week and the CS has to hammer this shit home!!
    Throw it away, Take the Sack... or just run.

    While I was pissed at him for the INT the Receiver should have played defender there... Sacks that takes us out of FG range and RZ Turnovers are unacceptable!!
    Truth is he was open but the trow was ridiculous.

    We can also blame the CS and eventually the D from that point on.
     
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  7. Big Blocker

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    I don't think Smith has very good pocket awareness is my point.

    Yes, Winters is a problem. Everyone can see that.
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    So are you saying the Jets should bench Smith?

    Heh.
     
  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I would tend to agree with you on that. The encouraging thing is that he's not scared. A lot of times with young quarterbacks they have a tendency to be scared to take hits thus disallowing them to step into throws. Geno isn't scared at all to step into his throws despite the probability that he's going to get drilled. He's also not holding the ball for hours like he did last season. He missed a couple check downs but as a whole he's been seeing the field better and getting the ball out quicker.
     
  10. Jetsfansince95

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    And he won't go down like a girl (Sanchez)
     
  11. Jetsfansince95

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    On the plus side he had some good decisions as well including that dumpoff to Kerley
     
  12. BrowningNagle

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    I think you are right about Geno in that regard. I agree with Bradway that this is common with young QBs. I will offer a couple more recent examples..

    I think Cam Newton did a lot of this his much maligned sophomore season.
    Andrew Luck still does a lot of it right now.
    the Young Roethlisberger also played like Geno in that he made mistakes trying to do too much

    Now obviously there are more examples of guys that played like that and never got better, but I think it's worth thinking about how some QBs get over this common deficiency.
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    Because we have an effing clueless dumbass as a HC.
     
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    i thought the opponent made adjustments. i thought we didnt adjust to the adjustments.

    i thought the whole bring other personnel in for the wildcat garbage was a mistake. i usually think its a mistake.

    at times we looked lost so far as a coaching staff is concerned. but that is to be expected with rex from time to time. its going to happen. we have to deal with that.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    Yes, I said this on a different thread, but it does seem more often than not that the Jets do not make effective in game adjustments on D. I don' t understand that. How come someone can be good at drawing up a game plan, and then not know how to effectively adjust it during the games? Maybe we are overstating this issue, but other posters have been raising it about Ryan for some time now. As time goes on, the theory increasingly makes sense in light of what we see occurring.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I really can't understand it either. It seems to me like Rex has a play script and calls it in order regardless of what's happening on the field. I obviously know that's not true but that's how it looks.

    The whole "who cares what they're going to do on offense we're gonna play our game and knock them in the mouths" bravado gets a bit older when every team 6 or 7 man protects and throws a 7 yard stop on 3rd and 7 because they know the house blitz is coming with the corners 10 yards off. Predictability is one thing you don't want on a multiple look defense without an elite pass rusher.
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    I don't disagree, but I don't know what to make of it. As I said on the other thread I find it hard to believe that Rex is not making adjustments, but that is certainly possible, s you allude to. But if he IS making adjustments, I can't see them. There are exceptions of course, like playing Milliner after he felt Walls and Allen were getting tired. But that's not the sort of thing we are talking about.
     
  18. Br4d

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    Eli Manning, Troy Aikman, Brett Favre (4 passes his rookie year as a Falcon for 2 int's and a sack and they punted on him, the Packers just held on for dear life and hoped he learned from his mistakes which by year 3 with them he mostly had), Fran Tarkenton, Randall Cunningham (92 sacks in his first 382 dropbacks..., that's a sack every 4th pass attempt in his first two years), Phil Simms, etc.

    It's easy to say the last fifteen years have been different because of the change in passing rules however for every Peyton there's been an Eli over that span. For every Brady there's been a Matt Stafford. For every Brees there's been a Drew Brees. Looking at what three or four QB's have accomplished and holding everybody up to that standard just doesn't work. Franchise QB's in the 00's have required just as much time and investment as the guys in the 70's, 80's and 90's. The overmarketed success of a few of them doesn't change that.

    And Joe Flacco blows chunks twice a year still to prove the point.
     

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