That would put Woody at 30 years by my count and behind Hess.. Of course that's not the best scenario. I'd like to think Woody is quicker than Hess was.
Ehh. Woody isn't that terrible but he isn't that great. He fields enough playoff teams that one will get lucky and win a SB. Look at the Jets since Woody took over in 2000: 17th overall in regular season win % 9th overall in playoff games played 10th in playoff wins. They haven't been a top tier organization, but they haven't been bottom of the barrel organization either. They're a very average organization.
Woody Johnson has been the best owner of the Jets since Sonny Werblin. The last few years look bad but the roster was a mediocre shambles with a power-freak star CB as the only attraction as of 2012. It's been a mess because the talent declined. That's what happens to every team in that circumstance. There are only a few other franchises that would have gone through what the Jets have gone through at QB over the past few years without being 2-11 at the 13 game mark every year.
The Jets could be a whole lot worse. Which is why I think the years we bottom out are SO important. We aren't the Jaguars or other teams who consistently get top picks. We have had a handful of them but they really direct our franchise because we have so few.
At least we don't have Dan Snyder. Read in a Simmons article yesterday about how bad he was.. At least NY media isn't censored and allowed to bash Woody without losing their jobs, something that wouldn't happen in DC since Snyder owns the team and team radio station.
And we blow chunks at making top 10 picks. We've blown chunks at making top 10 picks since Parcells left town. 2003 - Dewayne Robertson 2006 - D'Brickashaw Ferguson 2008 - Vernon Gholston 2009 - Mark Sanchez 2013 - Dee Milliner Nobody gets less out of a high draft pick than the Jets.
The D'Brick pick was gold. Could've went Cutler but a franchise LT that's started basically every game isn't allowed to be complained about..however Kyle Wilson could definitely be added to the list along with an incomplete on Dee.
Brick is fine. The other thing you notice,d we never in position to get a surefire top QB. We traded up in 2009, but besides that there was no QB available for us to take a shot on. We had to create that scenario (2009) 2003- Byron Leftwich was the first QB after us. 2006- Matt Leinart 2008- Joe Flacco 2009 - Josh Freeman 2013 - EJ Manuel On top of there not being a top QB, the next QB taken was not what the franchise needed.
Sorry, the D'Brick pick wasn't gold. A gold pick goes to the pro bowl 10 times in his career and is clearly seen as one of the best LT's in football for most of his career. He has a good shot at the hall of fame when he retires. The D'Brick pick was the only pick on that list that wasn't a failure (pending Milliner) and that's why we see it as gold. It wasn't a total screw up.
Damn your picky I guess 3 pro bowls and a great job protecting the blindside since 2006 doesn't count for a great/"gold" pick. Guess I should be happy he's not a total screw up since we drafted him.
If D'Brick was the average pick the Jets had made up high since 2001 we'd be ok. Instead he's the best pick we've made up high since 2001 and he's an average NFL LT and has been for most of his career. Dewayne Robertson D'Brickashaw Ferguson Vernon Gholston Mark Sanchez Dee Milliner Look at that list and tell me your eyes aren't bleeding.
My Eyes are bleeding looking at our first round picks from 2008-2010 that's for sure. Only 5 drafts since 2000 with a top 10 pick, no SB win to show for it but proves were not a joke and perennial loser like the Raiders/Jags/Bills. The Robertson pick was horrible but ages ago at this point. D'Brick is a decade starter. Everyone and their mother was on board with the Gholston pick, for him to bust that bad really killed us. Sanchez, while didn't pan out in the long run, gave us back to back AFC title games and Browns gave us a good deal to move up. A little early to write off Dee but we did get Sheldon 4 picks later. Besides Top 10 only when we've had a top half of the first round pick, historically they've panned out. Ellis/Abraham in 2000, Vilma 2004, Revis in 2007 and I'll mention Sheldon again for emphasis. We haven't had a terrible record since 2007. This year hurts a lot but this team has been more mediocre than dysfunctional the past few coaching regimes and I'd say since the Parcells era.
Going into this year I'd have said a Rex Ryan team wasn't capable of this bad a season. Then we got the 2014 offense which is the worst offense since the Kotite days. We got undisciplined players getting ejected from games, and good players at that. We got penalties ad infinitum. And we got weird shit happening on the sidelines because the coaches didn't have their head in the game enough even to be within shouting distance of each other at crucial moments in the game. I like Rex a lot but he's presided over the least organized Jets effort since Rich Kotite left town.
You didn't read really read it then did you? Context and understanding. The two paragraphs that matter most, they all matter towards building the whole. "Harbaugh has one year left on his 49ers contract, and he is not a running back who has to earn all the money he can before he gets washed up at age 26. He could "retire" in lieu of any trade to an undesirable franchise, watch the broadcast networks paratroop into his driveway in search of pregame-show catnip, then take his pick of coaching jobs after his obligations expire. Making the 49ers and their trade partners look ridiculous in the process would be an added bonus." While this paragraph does not mention specifically 'retaining his rights' a later paragraph (there's one between the above paragraph and this one) state: "If Harbaugh is fired the old-fashioned way, he will likely attract immediate interest from both New York franchises (he combines the signature attributes of New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin and Jets coach Rex Ryan, which may be a compliment), and I have not appeared on a region talk radio show this year that did not have a localized Harbaugh theory (If Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame and our coach takes the Notre Dame job, can you see Harbaugh at Tumbleweed Tech?)." Notice that this later paragraph states explicitly that "if Harbaugh is fired the old fashioned way". This statement indicates that there are more than one way to proceed. Regarding your Rex Ryan comparison, yes the Jets could do that if they wanted to or felt there was a trade market for him....have you heard of any team even contemplating a trade for Ryan's services? A contract is binding and unless a person is released from the obligation of the contract they are bound to that team. Players are different, they have a union that says 'no you can't cut us and keep our rights'. Coaches don't have that, but normally when a coach is fired the team usually releases them from their obligations in hopes another team signs them due to offset language that is often in contracts where if a coach signs with another team, players too, the offset language reimburses the club to a degree so the player/coach can not 'double dip' from two teams.
