That's a bad example. LT came in when our main back was "Greene for 3". He came on this team in hopes of him being back to his old form. We are dealing with an entirely different animal in Ivory. Again, he averaged near 5 ypc last year. That's incredible. You can't take away his carries after that. It would be unjustified.
you realize Bilal Powell had more snaps and touches than Ivory right? Ivory cannot handle a full load over the course of a year. I'd expect Ivory to get short yardage work, around half the early down snaps, and occasionally the Jets will ride him if the hot hand. Johnson will get the other split of early snaps, and almost all 3rd down work (unless short ydg), short passing game, and the Jets will ride him if matchup dictates. That will keep them both somewhat fresh. and btw, Johnson is not yet a 'ticking time clock'. He's missed one game in his career. very durable, and i expect him to be healthier than last year.
What are you talking about? If you have a great line your backend doesn't have to cover for too long and can be less than stellar.
If CJ gets back to his old form there not one person who would complain about Ivory not getting carries.
Meh. It depends on how bad your backs are. Right now the safeties might be average at best between Allen and Landry, at best. The Cb's are below average. In fact the linebackers are not much at either pass coverage or pass rushing. That's a lot of pressure to put on the DL, expecting them to do all the heavy lifting in pass defense. In any event I remain of the view that the FO will add a cb between now and opening day in any event.
First of all, ticking time clock was in reference to his age and his injury. I know he has started every game of his career, but he is also 28 years old coming off an injury. That's a ticking clock. Second, Powell had 176 attempts last year and Ivory had 182. If you want to factor in catches, then yes Powell had 36 to Ivory's 2, but that takes me right back to my point. Chris Ivory is the work horse. He takes majority carries as a back. Chris Johnson, in my opinion, is here to be the upgraded Bilal Powell. He will be used as a pass catching back who still surrenders the load to Ivory. The only reason Ivory did not start every game was because he had a nagging hamstring issue. You can not say that he can't play a full season when he's only had one in his career as the featured back.
I'm sure they will add a CB at some point, might even re-sign Ed Reed. An outside edge rusher would put this line over the top though and should be priority 1.
Yeah, I would. First of all, Johnson is not getting back to his old form. The 2,000 yard season of Johnson is long behind him. If you think he can get back to that, you're crazy. Second of all, why damage the production Ivory is giving to play a guy who MAYBE will do better? How much better do you want?! Ivory rushed for almost 5 yac!! I will keep saying that until you understand what that means. Our running game was ranked 6th in the league with Ivory battling a hamstring issue.
I don't think they go edge rusher because Rex is still hoping Coples can get it done, and in fairness to Coples he did seem to get better as last year went on. He was dealing with an injury before that. On the other side they are brining Pace back, and I expect them to start him, too. They will put off looking at another OLB for a year, imo.
All this talk about Johnson getting back to form...did anyone see any of the Titan play last year? Half the time he was handed the ball the defense was already 2 feet away 4 yards deep in the backfield..while our OL isn't what it used to be I can guarantee we are still a hell of a lot better than that Titan line was last year. I think a lot of people here will be surprised at just how good Johnson is.
Sure This I simply agree with. The key is who did you mean by the bolded "their". The conversation was about WF and so I assumed (perhaps wrongly?) that you were talking about Walter. All my subsequent responses to you were based on WF's take on CJ signing. If Walter's reasoning was"Jets will suck because they signed shitty players and thus RR will be fired" -- the reasoning you seems to imply behind Walter's "analysis" -- I wouldn't mind. The problem is that WF's reasoning is trend-related, not logic-based. If you strip out the wall of words, his underlying opinion is: "RR will be fired because Jets got CJ and QBDK, and getting coaches fired is what those 2 do!" e.g. there is a trend: Johnson or Vick on the team = coach is fired
that is absolutely incorrect. if you have a great DL that can get pressure on the QB and reduce the amount of time he has to throw, then receivers simply will not have time to run their routes and get open. so, yes, a great DL can compensate for a bad defensive backfield, the same way a great defensive backfield can compensate for a bad DL and create coverage sacks when they prevent receivers from getting open even though the QB had plenty of time to throw. obviously a poor backfield weakens the defense and makes them susceptible on plays when the line doesn't get pressure, but that isn't what you are saying.
I agree here, but there was a detailed video showing how consistently Johnson was given the holes but for some odd reason, he would run opposite of where he should have. I'm not blaming him entirely, but a lot of that was his fault.
Coples and Pace bring no speed off the edge, we need a dip and rip speed rusher off the edge that actually forces the QB to step up right into Mo Wilk and Sheldon. Asking Wilkerson to get 10+ sacks every year from the interior is almost criminal.
If I would had told you AP was going to gain 2000+ yards coming off a ACL tear you would called me crazy. Plus when I mean old form I'm not talking about him getting 2000 yards. He did that one season. I'm talking 1400+ yards.
Again, a bad example. AP was a freak occurrence. Let me put something in perspective for you. Since his rookie 2,000 yard season, his ypc has dropped every year. He has carried the ball over 1,700 times and is 28 years old. He just had a repaired meniscus and is coming off a year with two 100 yard games and barely surpassing 1,000 yards. What makes you think that he will go back to 1,400 yards a season? Enlighten me? What body of evidence do you have to support that? If this was the outlook, don't you think there would have been far more suitors looking to sign him when he was released? Wouldn't half the league want a guy that could have a 1,400+ yard season again? What do you know that the entire league doesn't?
I'm not sure he will get enough carries for that but if he gets back over 4.0 YPC I will be fine with that and so will the Jets..I think he will.
Sure you can throw out a game here or there, outliers exist. And I don't insists that Revis was overreaction. That said, look at the dynamic: Pats are very respectable 13th vs pass and very below average against the run @ 24th. Now you get Revis basically telling the league: "You shell not pass on us!" The league (confused) : "Um... may we run please?" Pats: "I dare you!" The league (confused even more): "oh... OK" And Jets get CJ for the occasion.
