You've been told why this entire thread: he has limited abilities. His lack of arm strength is detrimental to the Offense because Defenses stack the box and give the running game problems. Furthermore, the fast, aggressive Defenses find ways to get in his face, which in turn, causes him to panic and make pisspoor decisions and throws. You can have all the talent in the world, but eventually a QB needs an arm and poise to beat an elite D. Chad doesn't have that, no matter who his teammates and coaches are. And the proof is in the pudding, if you've watched his career, especially the Playoff losses -- which you've only seen one.
Obviously when you look at the Jets objectively you can make a valid case for Chad, not that he's above blame by any means, just that the mjority of Jet fans here want everyone to believe Chad was the main reason the Jets never went deep into the playoffs and I simply know better. It may piss some Jet fans off, but I refuse to agree with the ignorant logic it was mostly Chad. If Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon can win the SB so can Chad.
Do you think he was going to bring in someone who was off the hook different from himself or philosophies? Come on now. Sparano is an extension of the Parcells arm. We know who's stamp is put on that team.
Really? Limited abilites, you really try hard to make excuses. Joe Montana didn't have a stong arm, howd he do in the playoffs? Trent Dilfer was an avg at best QB who will never, ever be mistaken as a HOF'er and he won a SB. You're trying so hard to isolate Chad because the last thing in the world you want to see is Chad having success with a hated division rival and you're trying to convice everyone who'll lisen Chad won't be able to succeed in the post season, simply because he couldn't do it as a Jet. This is a team sport, get that through your head. Chad didn't have the best teams for winning in the post season while he was a Jet, that may offend you, but Oh well.
No he's not, he uses Bill to bounce ideas off, and to ask advice, but he isn't BP and he doesn't coach like BP. BB was a disciple of BP is he the same coach as BP too?
Alright... I've stood by and watched for 38 pages while the lot of you piss on my boy Chad, but that is it. :lol: Every freaking QB has weaknesses, some more than others. Not every freaking Elite QB wins a SB every year. It is a team game. Chad has his share of flaws. The only time I have seen Chad look horrible and make bad decisions was when he lacked an OL, or when he was put in a place to win the game on his own arm with little help. With a balanced unit around him he can be difficult to beat in a game because of the fact that he's smart and composed under pressure. Hey, news flash.. every f'n QB in the league struggles when you put pressure in their face and knock them on their ass. Even Peyton... even Brady. I respect folks wanting to see a change at QB... I get it. What I don't get is the blatant disdain and disrespect for a player who has been all heart, given his all to the organization, and who has won some BIG games for us, and helped see us into the playoffs (and through some playoff wins) more than a few times. You make it out like he's personally responsible for 40 years of failure, and it honestly makes you look pretty pathetic dogging the guy like he stole your bike or something.
The arguments you are making for him,were made by pro Chad Jet fans(including myself) here since 2002. Unfortunately,they were shown to be wrong. He has way too many weaknesses. But,i can understand why you don't know too much about it,because the 1 thing Chad did do,is consistently pound on the team in Miami with the gay colors. What you will have to learn the hard way is that the only thing Chad can do is beat the Dolphins. And he will continue to.
To be fair, the same people here were saying the same things when he was on the Jets. Even when we went 10-6 and to the playoffs with Mangini as a rookie coach, two rookies on the O-line and no running game. The minute we lost at New England in the playoffs, largely because the Pats put an 8-minute drive together in the 4th quarter to ice the game, it was all about "Chad sucks, can't get it done in the playoffs", etc, once again. You know, because we were supposed to go up there and beat that team in January by throwing bombs and deep outs.
Alright feelthepain, I have a question for you. We've all seen your criticisms on the BILLS and JETS. I get it, there's not much you like. But, be honest now, what is it about the BILLS and JETS that you do like? Seriously, I'd like to see what about these two teams you find promising for this year. No team is beyond hope in the NFL (well, maybe the LIONS, but I digress). For me with the DOLPHINS, they made some great moves last year to win now. They didn't bother with the rebuilding phase. They also have a pretty damn good pass rush and a nice D. The wildcat, for as much criticism it has received as a gadget play, worked well early in the season and got key victories helping them to win the AFC East. Chad offers hope, and gives the players the belief that they are in charge of writing their own history. EDIT: I forgot to mention your LT and RT. Solid players.
this thread hasnt been about crowder for about 35 pages. its about FTP chugging jizz from Chad's dong
I'll star with the Bills cause there's a whole lot less to like, you can be upset all you want about that or you be objective and honest and just accept the fact somone sees things in the Bills that blind faith hasn't inflated. 1) Your QB, while I think he's a decent QB, I don't think he's the Bills QB for the next 10 years. He has a good arm not a great arm he's accurate most of the time and he makes solid decisions, but he also makes bad decisions...it happens when you have constant pressure. 2) RB's- I think Marshawn is very talented, the best in the division? Maybe, maybe not. He doesn't exactly have the best Oline or coaching staff to use him to his full potential, so we really don't know what that potential is at this level Yet. Fred Jackson could start almost anywhere. 3) ST's- Very good unit, escellent coaching, however I wasn't as impressed last year as I was in previous years, but no ones gonna be the top all the time. They make a difference for a Bills team that's lacking in so many different areas. I think McKelvin is a solid returner as is Parrish, if I had to choose one it would be Parrish, but they have a lot of help due to the coaching in that unit. Take either player and put them in an avg to weak unit and they look like every other returner in the NFL. That's the extent of what I like about the Bills, Coaching, talent level, scheme, heart, desire, players overall size, managment, ownership are all negatives for the Bills at this point in time IMO. The Bills need to be completely overhauled from top to bottom. The Bills have mnade some real mistakes in the last 8 or so drafts. The Jets: It would be easier to point out what I don't like about the Jets than what I do like. They have talent at nearly every position. A few bad drafts IMO and Mangini were what I disliked the most about the Jets. Not that I think Snachez was a bad pick...he's a complete unkown right now, time will tell. It was just how much the Jets gave up to get him. I think if any team was in position to give up draft picks this year it was the Jets because they are so talented, but still Sanchez is no Joe Montana, no rookie is. Wayyy too much to give up for one player. I think the Jest could easily win the division if Ryan and Snachez have great seasons. I could see the Jets finishing dead last in the division if Ryan and Sanchez have bad seasons. The Jets have Clemens, and some Jet fans will argue he's no slouch, but the Jets didn't trade nearly their whole draft so they could play Clemens. IMO the Jets are vastly more talented than the Bills. They have the right coach for the right defense, Buffalo and their cover2tampa 2 whatever you want to call it is the wrong defense to compete in this division. The Olines keep getting bigger and the Tampa 2 Dlinemen keep getting smaller, especially the ends and LB's. Well that's how I see the two teams, again JMO.
Jet fans, sharing their deepest fantasies again. What next prancing around the meadowlands holding eeach others hands and wearing your proud to be gay T-Shirts?
I've heard every possible argument as to why Chad can win a SB - including the hackneyed "Montana's arm..." and "Dilfer won one..." arguments - but the fact remains that Chad hasn't advanced through the 2nd Round. And every Playoff loss has a common denominator: Chad not leading his team to enough points, Chad's costly turnovers. Montana had a slightly better arm than Chad, but he also could make many throws and didn't always make a costly turnover against a stout D. Dilfer had a better arm than Chad also, and again, took care of the ball even when facing aggressive Defenses.
If you're gonna use that basis, then Chad has to be on a team like those: the Bears D, the Ravens D and running game, Montana to Rice. Sorry to be the barer of bad news, but the Dolphins don't have anything close to what those teams had. Therefore, Chad won't be winning a SB with the Dolphins. Thanks for playin.
Thats because this is a team sport, the other common denominator, the rest of the Jets team. THIS IS A TEAM SPORT!!
