Since you enjoy stalking me, go find basically this same post discussion I've had numerous times with dudes that DON'T want to draft Amari Cooper first. _
Word Ditka whatever you say. Whatever it takes! LMAO my ass. Dude is not even in the same universe as Luck.
Please, it was hyperbole. When I discuss the issue with posters that don't want to draft Cooper first, I've laid out my rationale quite convincingly. Not going to take much at all, IMHO. _
No jackass, the posts where I discuss what it would REALLY take to trade up--not much. You're a literal guy, I get it. A bit childish, that's ok. _
Ftr, your response is fair enough. Sarcasm and intentional hyperbole do not always translate well in this kind of context. Emails have similar problems. I agree trading up a few spots to teams that will not want Mariota should not take all that much. Far less than a whole draft, to be sure.
Ricky Williams and Hershel Walker draft day trades will NEVER happen again. With that obvious piece of information out in the open. The RGIII deal might be too rich for my blood but I wouldn't have issue giving a future first rounder like the Eli deal or better yet a deal similar to the Sanchez deal which really didn't cost us much.
RG3 deal was an awful deal for the Redskins IMO. I'm not a huge fan of trading up unless that piece is the final piece to the SB puzzle. The Sanchez deal was great though - tough to pull that trade by sending JAG players and a smaller # of picks. This team is pretty bad all-around we need a lot more talent. Offensive line, linebackers, cornerbacks, QB the list goes on. If we did a decent job in 2013 / 2014, then maybe the door opens for a trade but we did an awful job so I think trading up is out of the picture.
If we end up with a top 3 or 4 pick this year, we have to get our franchise QB. There are going to be WRs available at the top of round 2 that will get you 90% of what Cooper gets you. There are no other non-criminal QBs this year or next that will get you 90% of Mariota. Will he be a star? Will he bust? Nobody knows but you have to make that leap. We had the right strategy with Sanchez but the pick didn't work out. We have a golden opportunity this year. And Mariota is not "raw", he has just not been asked to play in a pro set offense. He's started every game for 3 years at the highest level of competition, has great feet, is extremely accurate and apparently has an incredibly high football IQ and work ethic. That's a guy you take the chance on. And it's not going to take a lot to move up, notwithstanding the hyperbole of "trade the whole draft". _
You've been talking this guy up like he's the best thing since sliced bread, I thought you already knew. Now you aren't 100% sure?
Btw, some of those posts were made when I was about 9 glasses of Pinot Noir in. It's just a phrase, trade the farm, trade the entire draft, trade the house, whatever it takesblahblahblah--some folks are too literal. _
Seriously--this is what you've come to? Nobody can ever be sure about anyone. Cooper may end up being Charles Rogers. Are you sure he isn't? _
Btw, in all seriousness, any player can bust but Mariota, because of how he's been described from his intelligence, work ethic and superior physical traits has IMHO a very low bust quotient. Everyone knew Leaf was a douche and Russell always had that propensity to become fat and lazy. Winston has a much higher bust factor IMHO. _
You've got that slightly backwards. If we did better in 2013 and 2014 we might not be in the position to have a top 3-4 pick this year. I don't pick my QB as the last piece of the SB puzzle, none of these successful franchises have done that. They get them as the FIRST piece of the puzzle. _
So of all the QBs that have busted and all the WRs that have busted, I can freely admit that Mariota COULD bust (but a very small chance) but you can guarantee that Cooper WON'T bust? Or will just be an ok reciever? Lol. _
We have a ton of cap space that can be used to sure up some holes. Even if we didn't I would still be inclined to trade up. Although trading up often has a short term thinking connotation, it's really not when you are trading up to draft what you believe to be your franchise QB. Lastly, if you think the 2013 and 2014 drafts were awful, what makes you think 2015 will be better?
At worst - I see him as an OK receiver that will put up decent statistics (Poor man's Keenan Allen). If we want to name a former bust then you could say Peter Warrick. I'm going to tell you why I like Cooper. The man is a pure technician, observe how he puts himself in position to catch balls, the routes he runs are amazing, allows him to gain separation with ease. Strong work ethic, he's going to make the QB look good that's how I feel about him. I don't know what the future holds for Harvin and Decker it's questionable 2 yrs down the road. I love my receivers to have excellent technique and Cooper is the best I've seen this draft. I like a lot of receivers in this draft, but Cooper is the best I've seen, next to Strong from ASU.
