The offensive coordinator of the NY Jets has 3 stages: 1. Early Euphoria, where the fact that whatever he's doing hasn't totally imploded yet causes the fans to rejoice. 2. Reality Sets In, where the Jets tendency to have mediocre to poor offensive talent causes the offense to be randomly dysfunctional. 3. The Wicker Man, where the fans line up to be the first to set fire to the poor constable who was lured in on a mission and then trapped by his own desires. Every Jet's OC since 1997 has been known as a primary advocate of a certain type of system. We've expected all of them to wave a magic wand and make their system work like, well - magic. Only Charlie Weis survived for more than 3 seasons with his reputation intact and Weis only survived because he got kidnapped to the Pats when Belichik left. Parcells had already taken away play-calling responsibilities from him at least once before that when the locals began to wave pitchforks and torches. Chan Gailey has one thing going for him that none of the guys who preceded him had: he's an elder statesman among coaches at this point and he's not worried about his next job. He can actually do this thankless job without getting too high or too low or worrying about whether the Jets OC position will bury his career.
I really, REALLY have to disagree with you on this one, Brad. If you have watched me bash Schottenheimer from day 1, you will know that I didn't bother with stage 1 - I started with mild case of skepticism, but not an euphoria - and realized Jets O was in stage 2 by the start of Year 2. Of course I have supplied a lot of statistical data about why Schottenheimer sucked till he was shitcanned. The problem is - I am not alone in this camp either. [And yeah - there was this human brick wall called nyjunc on the other side.]
The Jet's O was #2 in the NFL through 11 weeks of 2008 or until Favre hurt his shoulder. I think Schotty was still viable at that point although the shine had worn off. 333 pts in 11 games. That's the second-best stretch in franchise history. The 1998 team had 307 pts in Vinny's first 11 starts. The 1968 team had 341 pts from week 2 to week 12.
And Favre basically said [Shove that stupid playbook up your ass, Schottenheimer.] And he literally took out all the pre-snap motions. Which resulted in the offense operating faster as a consequence. I still think 2008 was more of Favre doing his thing with the offense than Schottenheimer guiding the offense to the limit of his ability. See for yourself - the Jets offense under the same Schottenheimer looks so radically different when Favre ran it. I remember complaining about the plays being relayed way too late quite often, and quite vocally - during Chad years, and during Sanchez years. That is the Schottenheimer offense I remember. WAAAAAYYYY too much unnecessary bullshits for cute little production.
Nice article about how Gailey plans to use the size of our WRs to create mismatches in the slot - maybe why they are willing to carry so few TE's http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...-jets-oc-plenty-versatility-article-1.2350272
I, for one, want him back. He has too much talent. Like another poster said, all is forgiven if you win. If Geno comes back, is still smug and hasn't learned a thing in terms of being a good teammate and leader, then fine, we can his ass at the end of the season. If he comes back and his play is more like it was last season than during TC, we get rid of his ass at the end of the season. There's still a pretty good chance that he could come back, shake off the rust, and play as well as he was in camp. If so, at a minimum, he could still be a quality backup to Petty. They could have a nice competition next year for the starting role and the other be the backup. I still think that Geno has the physical talent to be a quality starter in the league. It appeared that he had improved on the mental aspects of the game. If so, it's too early to give up on him imo.
Still smug? He just informed reporters he will not be pressing charges against IK. Please, please cut this guy
This makes 0 sense. I don't see a correlation whatsoever. All indications out of camp were that Geno looked like he took a step forward. You can pretend like we have heard that before, but we haven't. He didn't even have a good camp mlst year. I trust the eyes of reporters that watched him daily way more than I do the minds of armchair GMs sitting at their computers. You'd have to be crazy to not want Geno back right now, for two reasons: -He plays as well as his camp indicated he would and we are competitive. -He plays awful and we are 100% sure we can move on from him.
Just root for every QB to do really well, its all we can do. Maybe Geno's early signs in camp means he really turned a corner on the field, maybe we never find out because Fitzpatrick is everything we need after all, maybe Bryce Petty is gonna light it up and make both nothing but solid backups, who knows? why root against anybody, just hope somebody plays well at QB after all is said and done.
I don't blame him. I'd press charges too! Ik hitting him, cost Geno the starting job as well as a lot of pain. I don't care how smug or how much like an ass Geno may have acted, punching him was not the way to deal with it. It's probably the best thing that could happen for Ik too. Something needs to happen to wake that guy up. He could kill somebody with his bare hands. He needs to get that temper under control. Cutting Geno now would be utterly stupid! Thank GOD some of you knuckleheads don't run the team.
Exactly! As long as they're Jets, we should hope that they learn, grow up, develop, whatever. It's for the benefit of the team above all. These guys who just want to cut every player they don't like or who makes a mistake need to wise up.
Could not agree with you more. Geno showed flashes of awesome improvement during training camp. It helps to have an OC that gives you the weapons and the schemes to match your strengths. We don't yet know how good Geno can be. This is the year to find out. It's a win win for us to get him back either as a back up or a starter if Firz has trouble.
context. did he just announce on his own accord that he would not be pressing charges or was he asked directly and answered directly that he would not be pressing charges? it makes a big difference if you are going to jump on him about the statement. if it was on his own than yes there is an issue. if he was asked and answered,well, you're just quote mining to fuel your own hate.
