I was at least listening until this. There simply is no evidence to suggest this is accurate. Its wishful thinking. I think the players and coaches don't think quite the same way we do. These guys are competitive on a whole different level. They aren't thinking the season is over, the rest of the games don't matter, lets see what we have in the new guy. They plan every week to win. They obviously believe for whatever reason that Chad is the best option to accomplish this. Its really no more complicated than that. Chad is the better of the two and you don't play a less complete, inferior QB when you are trying to win. To do so in search of a "spark" is giving up. That might be fine as a disgruntled, desperate for anything fan but its not how these guys think.
ironically, it is the fact that they continue to play him that he is losing value. the fact is, if the Jets were truly rebuilding, they would have traded him before the season when his value was highest coming off a 10 win season, started all 16 games and made the playoffs. this regime can't make a good decision to save their lives. you have to decide whether you are rebuilding or playing for now, but they dump players that they need and keep others that they have drafted to replace. which is it? the coaching staff doesn't have a clue and either does the GM, and they are ruining the team and the value of the players. Vilma is another example. they couldn't trade him (eve if they wanted to) for equal value. Tannenbaum and Mangini are over their head, and the decisions they have made this season clearly indicate it. this team is going to suffer a long time under their guidance, and will be that team that is always rebuilding. what exactly is their vision, other than to model themselves after the Patriots?
horrible argument; putting in a new QB now doesn't indicate giving up on the season. I know this is just one example, but how did a new QB work out for Dallas last year? that was a move meant to make the team better, which just shows that replacing the QB can be done under the direction of improvement, not giving up on the season. fact is, continuing to play Chad has done far worse to the direction of this season than a new QB would have.
The scariest thing about the continuing Chad-playing is that it suggests strongly that the Jets believe Clemens is not ready to play yet. It's a rare QB who is not ready to play by his second season and ever amounts to anything. It's almost as if either Mangini is clueless or Clemens is talentless. That's a nasty dichotomy to deal with.
Its not a horrible argument when the team has a solid QB and a crappy rest of the team. Dallas as it appears had all the components in place with a rapidly aging QB who was struggling. Chad is in his prime, playing well often and good enough most every game to win had he a solid team around him. Just because he can't win the game on his own doesn't mean he deserves to be benched so we can watch the backup flounder around helplessly. If that were true Favre should have been run out last year. They have a guy of the future waiting. He isn't better than Favre but by your logic he should have been playing because Favre wasn't getting it done and they needed to see what they had in #2.
Very true. Though Herm thought Pennington was talentless. Turned out he was pretty damn good for us for a season. Who knows if the Raiders game ruined his career or if the injuries did.
You seriously are over rating chad. Take away the magical 02 run and he is a career 1 td to 1 pick guy. I can poinT to 3 games that this man has cost us this year. HE has played well in 2. Thats not playing well often. Fact is were about 3 yrs away from being a viable contender, by then he will be 34. The Jets have no future w/ Chad, just let go.
and i think this could be the third reason to continue starting Pennington. maybe Mangini and Schott know that Clemens is the future, they already know that he has the tools and the intangibles. while this is presumptuous, maybe they really feel he's it. and therefore, they don't want to put him in a bad situation with the state of the team right now; they don't want to stunt his growth. perhaps they feel once they get a better overall team in place (next year) then he can come in with a much better chance of success. again, i'm trying my hardest to figure out what the fuck Mangini is thinking.
Well said. At this point in time though, I feel that Mangini is going to stick with Chad for the rest of the season, and not even bother with starting Clemens. I could be wrong though.
The sad thing is that Jets fans have been conditioned to believe that the sort of play that get from Pennington is actually high quality QB play, when it clearly isn't. The Jets haven't gotten high quality play from their QBs in at least 20-25 years, other than two times: Vinny in 1998 and Chad in 2002. The rest of the time the QB play has ranged from abysmal to a bit above average. High quality QBs raise the level of play of the rest of the team. High quality QBs overcome the weaknesses of their own team. High quality QBs force the opposition defense into uncomfortable positions, rather than taking what they give and trying not to make mistakes. High quality QBs carry the team on their back when it is playing poorly. High quality QBs destroy teams that they are better than (getting TDs rather than FGs when opportunities arise), and often beat teams that are clearly better than their own. High quality QBs overcome their own poor play to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. High quality QBs take a team with a very good defense and a Hall of Fame RB to more than 10 wins, and get a home playoff game. Pennington has done none of that in more than 4 years, and it would be insane to think that he's going to start doing it now.
This is good news. I'm such a fan of Chad. One of the most accurate all time passers. Coles & J.C. both love him. All this guy needs is an O-Line. Mangini knows this and I know this.
It is beyond disgusting that people even defend Chad at this point. We are so used to being losers we Glorify mediocre scrubs like Chad. People in other cities laugh at us when we mention his name. It is beyond a joke.
Chad's prime was two surgeries ago. Chad is a liability right now and couldn't win a SB with the Bears the 85 team not the 07 team.
Its never Chad's fault it always is: a)coaches b)o-line c)lack of running game d)WR's not getting open e)if all else fails see option A
