Chad Henne vs Mark Sanchez

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  1. NDmick

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    You did want to make a comparison and people ran with it in a different direction didn't they?
     
  2. gammatec

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    As a Charger fan, I can tell you that Sanchez right now is playing better all around ball then Rivers.

    I wish the Chargers would have found a way to draft Sanchez, I'de be in heaven.

    In my humble opinion...Sanchez is a better team/game manager then Rivers. Rivers has been around longer, but at 22, Sanchez already helped the Jets reach the AFC Championship game while stepping over Rivers and my Chargers. To me... Rivers is a choker, and is incredibly slow and imobile.
     
  3. Coach K

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    you guys need a more balanced offense. and you needed vincent jackson. plain and simple.

    the line needs to be retooled. theyre good at buying time. but combine that with rivers ALWAYS looking upfield to make a big play and his mobility equals a lack of consistency.

    also theyre not good at run blocking. havent been since 07
     
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    I just want to be able to respect my elders, thats all. I'm old school.
     
  5. MadBacker Prime

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    While your here, when the Chargers got rid of Brees were the fans behind that move?

    Does that still get brought up a lot out in SD? Were you happy for him, that he won a SB?
     
  6. HardHitta

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    Sancho FTW!
     
  7. gammatec

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    When we got rid of Brees, me personally, I hated it. It was weird seeing him leave, and the general consensus with the people I talked to was about the same. Brees is the shit, and it pisses me off seeing him in NO, but i'm happy for him. I was cheering him on during the SuperBowl (also a fan of Bush so that helped) and it felt good seeing him happy.

    It doesn't get talked about anymore, it did for a while up until the Chargers started doing well soon after with Rivers.

    We're not going anywhere with Rivers, so i'm hoping we'll draft that other kid from USC, Barkley, somehow.
     
  8. Italian Seafood

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    I like Rivers' intensity but I don't know if that's always good for a QB to get that fired up during the game. Maybe better to keep cool, easier said than done though.
     
  9. SuppaMan

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    Henne's impressed me more than I thought, but he still is carrying the stigma from college that I (and other's) attached to him. He just doesn't win big games.

    No matter how close the team is or how well he plays, he lets down in the moments that they need to actually win the game. It happened throughout his career at Michigan.

    He's much more worrisome in that regard than Aaron Rodgers (who's played well in his short NFL career yet has struggled with the same issue in the NFL). However, Rodgers looks good enough to get over that learning curve in coming from behind, based on Henne's track record over the year's, I'm not sure he'll ever overcome that on an average (you aren't always going to win every big game or always be able to come from behind).


    Sanchez has already won some big games in college and the NFL in his extremely short career. He also has the bigger upside attached due to his shorter work portfolio compared to Henne (who played and started all four years of college). Henne is in a very similar situation to Sanchez, he has a great offensive line, good running game, good receivers, and a good defense.

    I think what you are hearing behind the scenes over the worry of Henne is that with already having a longer career history (college and even at the least being in the NFL even if not playing initially for a few years) is that he still has shown that same tendency to lose the big games when they matter, whether it's coming from behind or not. If the Dolphins keep losing the important games this year (usually combined with some bad plays from Henne) then he may very well eventually get run out of Miami if he can't take a step forward in that regard in a year from now. I get the feeling he's on a short leash, whether Pennington is there or not.

    That said, Henne is not a terrible QB and can play in the league. He even flashes that he can be a top-ten QB, the issue is already what I've stated. There are certainly a lot worse around the league, and even if the Dolphins jettison him in a few years if his play keeps that same tendency, he'll still likely be a starter in the league. But that history in college and now even the NFL, along with the division they sit in, when factoring in the other parts of their team, definitely puts him on a shorter leash than many would initially think.


    Usually the third year in the NFL for a QB is a telling year (career wise..a QB can obviously have good years before that, it's more of a telling line for overall play as an average throughout what will be the entire career) if you factor in Sanchez's history, I would rather say the fourth year will be telling for him. Seeing him play pretty well in the post-season and taking some steps forward this year (in all aspects) is promising. The fact he's willing to put in the hard work is also promising and helps bode well for him and the Jets.

    Similar in some ways, and linked in others, these two could have somewhat similar career paths and face each other for a long time, or they could split and have their careers go in very, very different directions.
     
  10. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    I'm surprised to hear that, but i guess i can understand given the playoff disappointments chargers fans have had to deal with in the past 5 years or so.

    Personally, I think rivers is an excellent QB. To me he's like one peg below peyton, brady and brees. I'd put him ahead of rodgers because rivers has done it for longer.
    He's thrown more picks than usual this year it seems, but he's got pretty much everything you need in a QB aside from the mobility.

    I think you can point to a lot of other reasons the chargers havent won it all or are only 2-2 right now. Offensive line and coaching are a couple of reasons

    Can sanchez be a better QB than rivers some day? It's possible, but hopefully sanchez will never be asked to do what rivers has been doing since they went pass heavy.
     
  11. Jets-N-Terps

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    First, let me say that I don't like Henne (I live in Ohio, so it is a double whammy against him) but aren't you forgetting a little game in in Miami on Jan 1st 2008??? That WAS the biggest game of his career and he beat a heavily favored Florida team. No one gave Michigan a chance in that game. He did throw 2 picks, BUT I seem to remember him playing pretty well when it counted.
     
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    I agree, he's playing better so far this year, but I don't think you can say he's better than Rivers based on this short of a time period. What happens if he has a couple of bad games? These things can change quickly. Rivers is an excellent QB, SD should be happy to have him. I was a NC State when he was there. Oddly enough, he didn't display a lot of the whiny/shit-talking behavior then that he does now in the NFL. That part I could do without.
     
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    Did he carry that over to the NFL though? So far it does not seem so?

    In his last 5 "big" games he's thrown 9 picks, the 3 losses at the end of 09 and the 2 losses this year.

    That's not showing up when your team needs you. Let him throw for 600 yards, it's all meaningless if you can't score.
     
  14. Coach K

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    nothing stood out to me more than his collapse last year. didnt they go 0-3 in their final 3 games. where 1 or 2 wins wouldve kicked us out and gave them our wild card berth?
     
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    Yeah they ended up 7-9, if they won 2 and were 9-7 they would've gotten in.

    The lost 4 of the last 6, and the last 3 in a row.
     
  17. rex-N-effects

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    henne shows flashes of being goo but has been inconstant and chokes when the game is on the line, i mean even this year he drove the fins all the way down to like the 7 yard line and then gets stopped 4 times in a row including throwing a INT to lose it
     
  18. MadBacker Prime

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    I've never heard of someone using the term goo to describe a QB, PhinPhags say he's robotic. I think that is the opposite of goo.
     
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    Henne's a pretty average starting QB. The Dolphins could do a lot worse and probably will if they bench him/trade him/kick him overboard. The years the Dolphins are good enough to make the playoffs and well-coached they'll make the playoffs with him at QB. Right now they're being very poorly coached and so they won't.

    If the Dolphins are smart they'll give Sparano the boot after the season and keep Henne. I'm guessing it's going to go the other way though.
     

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