I agree, very good defense and running game the Jets have. The Dolphins have a ways to go in my eyes. The defense needs some more players and we are in desperate need of #1 reciever. Anybody who thinks 1st year staters at the qb position are going to be successful all the time, better go back and look at the history of the position. Both of these players have done well for their experience level.
Now, I don't know why I'm pointing this out, but when a team scores 3 TD'S on defense and special teams, then the offense doesn't come on the field, therefore the offense doesn't complile any yardage. When Miami did get the ball back in the 4th, they drove it down the field. So, Miami's offense could have put up better #'s on offense, but they just didn't have the opportunity to because of the unconventional way we were scoring. When you go back and look at the gamelog, the score was 6-3 before Ginn's first TD in the 3rd quarter. Are you trying to tell me that Sanchez was "lighting" it up before the middle of the 3rd quarter? If you were, then that's a laughable offense.
Henne Vs Sanchez Who gives a shit who gives a fuck. Dolphin and Jet fans wont agree so who gives a shit.
Sigh, time to break out the shovle for the troll food. You had 51 offensive plays with an average of 2.0 yards a play. The Jets averaged 4.9 yards per play, more than double. You had 22 passing plays for a net of 52 yards or 2.3 yards per passing play. The Jets had 35 for 252 yards or 6.8 yards per passing play. About tripple the phins. Finally the Phins had 23 rushes for 52 yards or 2.3 yards per rush. The Jets had 40 for 127 yards or 3.2 yards per rush. Your passing attack suckd ass on average, it was not due to a number of attempts. Now that you've been proven worng for a third time i would expect you to defelect the matter yet again because you are a mindless troll who can never be worng and has nothing better to do. Enjoy your troll food!
Your Young CB's are going to be a hell of a duo moving forward. Davis is as advertised and Smith was one of my favorite prospecs comming out of the draft last year. Both appear to be developing nicely and have a good (geart in smiths case) combo of size and speeed. Your defense is not too far off, but needs some youth in the front 7 badly.
I totally disagree with the premise of this arguement. The reality is we dominated in TOP and yards in the first half but were marginally more productive in terms of scoring points at 6 to 3. In the second half the Fins O didn't have the ball because they were scoring points on special teams and when they did get the ball and needed a score they were every bit as productive as the Jets O. Game situations impact how games are played. What you very often see in all sports is ebb and flow dictated by circumstance. When the Fins O needed to produce they were every bit as productive as the Jets O.
Ya, I'm loving our CBs... especially Davis. Our Front 7 actually has some nice youth to it. It really is our OLBs, with JT and Porter that are old. Our 3 man rotation at 3-4 DE are Starks(25), Langford(23), and Merling(24). Crowder is 26, and Soliai, our NT, is 25. Ayodele is 30, but I cant see him back next year anyway. I expect a high draft pick to be spent on an ILB/OLB this offseason...
At the end of the day this discussion means nothing, Sanchez balls out this weekend (given he plays) we'll be back to square one again arguing about the better QB, they would prefer Henne we would prefer The Dirty Sanchez, there's more to talk about the QB position (kudos to whoever had that sig) once the Jets are able to play well in ALL 3 phases of the game Dolphin fans won't be able to say shit cause there's no doubt we have a better team
I agree w/ most of what you wrote but Miami had one TD drive all game and that was aided by a blown fumble call or they don't score a TD on offense.
Ummmm no, the first half ended 3 to 3. Jets take a 6 to 3 lead on a feely FG. Then a Ginn return for a TD makes it 10-6 phins. Jason taylor returns a fumble for a TD 17-6 Phins. Sanchez scores a TD 17-13 Phins. Ginn return for TD 24-13 Phins. Henne pass for TD (no pat) 30-13 Phins. Sanchez to Keller TD 30-25 Phins and thats your final. So Miami's offense was never more productive in scoring points. Not in the first half, not in the second. They moved the ball well in one drive. a 67 yarder for the TD. other than that thier longest drive was 26 yards. In ohter words, your post is completely off the mark.
I didn't say they were more productive they were as productive. Your stat line is just a bunch of BS. The Dolphins beat us home and home. Their O and our O were both on the field in the first half and we did squat they did sqaut. In the second half when their O needed a score they drove the field and scored a TD which won the game for them just like they did in Miami and Henne did a real nice job on both of those crucial drives, denying it is just being argumentitive. I keep hearing how we dominated them, we didn't dominate them they had the lead from a combination of special teams and defense their O wasn't on the field very much and when they were they didn't need to do anything and didn't do anything. When the did need to do something they did it. The Dolphins probably say the same thing about the Colts game they dominated except they didn't dominate, they Colts have been doing that to teams for years. Henne played really well in the clutch in both games, so did Sanchez. Henne has won more games than Sanchez starting less games. I believe the Dolphins are as good or better than the Jets having seen them beat us twice in two very different ways. Most of the people on this board think the Jets are a far superior talented team yet Sanchez is better than Henne and Henne has won more than Sanchez. Interesting argument. The truth is both of these guys could be busts, mediocre or great. No one knows who has the higher ceiling at this point and frankly not many players ever reach their ceiling, if they did you would see a ton of 1st and 2nd round draft picks in the HOF. By the way the Dolphins were 0 and 3 in games Chad Pennington started this year and are 7 & 3 in games Henne has started. Sanchez is 6 & 6 as a starter for the Jets. Seems to me Henne is playing better than Sanchez and the Dolphins may actually be a better team than the Jets? I love that we worked this kid out, drafted him and giving him playing time. I think in 2 or 3 years we may have ourselves a great NFL QB. I would feel the same way if I was a Dolphin fan regarding Henne.
Winston- You do realize this is Marks first year, and Chads second year right? The end of your post makes sense though, to revisit this in 2 or 3 years. Mark is still only 22, and he turned 22 pretty recently.
I'm not knocking Sanchez or praising Henne. At this point it's a dumb argument neither one of them have proven very much to this point. I'm happy to have Sanchez, I'm not ready to say he is better than Henne at this point or will be in the future. Cutler looked like he was going to be all world and has fallen off a cliff, he could well recover. Carson Palmer was probably the best QB prospect I had seen in years. Devestating injury and he's never been the same player again. He might be again. The league is filled with guys who had huge potential and never lived up to it.
