"Whatever happens on the mile, STAYS on the mile." That was the modus operandi, no? I don't know if it is my military background or what but, as far as I am concerned, you are never supposed to throw your teammate under the bus in public, especially as the leader and (especially in this case) as a mentor/teacher. You can do whatever the hell you want to do behind the doors - nobody sees it, and you will get things done and correct mistakes. That's all part of becoming better. Now, dragging the dirty laundry list in public? What does that achieve, both long term and short term? You achieve nothing if that much. So my question is why did he have to do this dumb fuck bullshit? Is he that stupid? (I presume he is; I'd assume he is much - by margin of 10+ years, if not more - older than I am, yet if he hadn't figured out what I figured out at my age, how dumb does he have to be? AND he has been in personnel-handling business as a coach for as long as anybody can remember. It makes no sense whatsoever no matter how you slice it.)
Funny, these exact same arguments were going on over on the Broncos board when the coaching and management staffs were saying similar things about Tebow. Nearly everyone who took the position quoted above was accused of being a blind Tebow homer.
1- I love the fact Rex allows his staff to talk to the media. I hated the dark days of Parcells and Mangini. 2- The most interesting point of the article was that gong to 2 AFCCG in his first 2 seasons has hurt Mark's perception of reality. If MARK thinks Mark is fine, he ain't gonna listen to anyone else. But loosing the last 3 games like he did last year will force Mark to take a look in the mirror and start accepting 'coaching'. And if that don't, then Tebow barking up his ass certainly will. 3- Mark is not capable of putting a team on his shoulders (Brady, Manning, etc). But put a solid team around him and he's capable of 'not blowing it'. He'll even pull off the great 4th qtr comeback from time to time. Rex and Sparano need to keep their expectations for Mark reasonable and Mark needs to play a bit above average. Combine that with good receivers, good TE's, solid running game, and a top rated Defense and Mark will be fitted for a few rings in the near future.
I can't see how it is Cavanaugh's fault that the media blows everything out of proportion with the Jets. He was obviously asked the question and he gave an answer, it's not like he wrote a letter to the editor of the paper and demanded that his opinion be shared with the world. So seeing as he would have been asked a question directly he had four possible responses: 1) I'm not going to comment on that. Media take: QB coach doesn't back Mark Sanchez, locker room turmoil at an all time high. Tebow set to be starter shortly. etc. etc. etc. Result: Creates a media shitstorm. 2) Praise Sanchez as being an incredible QB (i.e. last year was not his fault at all). Media (and fan for that matter) take: FO is completely out to lunch and can't do their jobs, fire everyone. Result: Creates a media shitstorm and probably doesn't bode well in the locker room. 3) Be unnecessarily harsh on Sanchez (i.e. blaming him and him alone). Media take: FO doesn't support Sanchez, Tebow to be starter soon, etc. Result: Creates media shit storm and probably pisses off Sanchez if not other people in the locker room as well. 4) What he did say, which was supportive of Sanchez but not to the point where they ignore his responsibility for the bad season nor pin everything on him, try to make people realize that he's still a young QB and he's going to go through growing pains. Media spin: who cares? You were honest, realistic and on point. At that point if people can't see through the media spin and BS used to sell papers/generate hits then that's not your problem. Result: Media shit storm as per usual but no real additional damage. I personally would have more of a problem with it if he did one of these other three things or if he personally went out of his way to put his opinion out there. But I can't fault a guy for honestly answering a question, especially when I agree with everything he said.
Whether I support Sanchez or not (frankly, I'm less than 50/50 - I see obvious flaws in him, believe it or not) that is not how you do your business. (I would have said the same thing as a Broncos fan whether I support Tebow or not.)
Has Cavanaugh made such a bold critique publicly of Mark Sanchez before? This seems like a bit of an indictment. Mark needs to work hard to be a game manager? That's my point. That Mark Sanchez is being held over the fire and it seems like the Jets coaches and management are making no secret about the fact that they are taking a hardline look at last year's tape and are not gonna be shy any longer about dishing out the dirt. In the past, it really seemed like there was an effort to shield Mark and insulate him against blame and the players chaffed at such treatment (anonymous sources saying as much last year). Add in the fact they brought in Tebow, a guy that beat Mark head to head last year, and you start to see that Mark is getting a job review right now publicly with his replacement (Tebow) clearly waiting in the wings; they are pushing for the change to happen. The bloom is off the rose for Mark Sanchez.
Cavanaugh is right. He's just saying what was painfully obvious to any Jet fan who watched games on a regular basis last season. I don't see what the big deal is. My question is, isn't it the QB coach's job to help Sanchez become a better decision maker? In pointing out Sanchez's lack of improvement, Cavanaugh is really bashing himself, too.
Cavanaugh is not bashing himself because his main message is that Mark wasn't listening. Because of the early success of going to AFC Champs, he wasn't focused on the importance of following instruction, not turning over the ball, and making better decisions. Cavanaugh cannot do it for him if he's not listening. That's the message: when coaching is falling on deaf ears. What this tells me: the bloom is off the rose.
read the thread and couldn't agree more. wether C is right or wrong is besides the point, no successful manager/club ever went their problems in public. If you want to be harder on Sanchez be so, but not in the press. Therefore i think it is planted, and a sign of things to come. Nobody in their right mind bring in Tebow as a backup, he will play before the end of the season (unless Sanchez aces) and one of sanchez or tebow is gone by the start of the next.
In that same article he also mentioned that many of the turnovers were not his fault. It's not like he's bashing the guy, he's just saying he needs to clean up his ball protection to avoid a few other mistakes. What were people saying about Eli Manning's HUGE (more than Sanchez) amount of turnovers last season??? Probably the same thing. It's not pointing fingers, the stats speak for themselves.
No, do you know what this is....This is his way of gaining some of the credit, when Sanchez starts playing better, having been freed from Schitty's System. Pennington and Favre saw their Passer Ratings increase by 10+ points after fleeing Schotty....and they are two very different style passers. I'm not saying it's a given, I'm saying that's what the evidence shows. Put 10 points on Sanchez, and that where Philip Rivers was last year. If you get nominal growth, and the 10 Schotty points, he's a top 10 in passer rating. (And let me predict this.....when that DOES HAPPEN, the very gay sports media will chalk it up to the pressure of Tim Tebow....God forbid they should actually analyze historical stats, etc...)
Hardly. Those two right now are not even close in terms of QBacking skills. And FWIW.....It wasn't Mark Sanchez (or the offense for that matter) that gave up contain (after giving up the legnth of the field) to lose in Denver. Sanchez will break 90 in QBR this year, with Schotty gone. And will sniff, if not finish in the top 10 in that category. The simple fact is you had a dipshit OC that thought pass plays needed 3 days to develop, a piss poor RT, and your QB STILL IMPROVED. Penny Suffered. Favre Suffered....What makes Sanchez different....was he more seasoned than those guys? The second part of it is who is the better football player (outside of being just a QB) Tebow wins that......but not by all that much. Sanchez has already proven himself to be a big time player in big time spots...Kinda like Jeter...Ok day in and day out....When the lights get bright.....a whole different story.
Pretty much. The problem the Jets seem to have is they don't have a unified front for the media because the organization at the top lacks descipline. You have a young QB who needs to develop and mature being handled by an organization that operates like a child.
The employees of the organization aren't being treated like children unlike under BP and Mangini. What exactly that has come out hurts Sanchez? What did Cavanaugh say that is so detrimental to his progress? This is a situation of fans and media dissecting everything that is being said. Cavanaugh stated the obvious, this doesn't hurt Sanchez or the team in any way.
I generally agree that the organization lacks discipline, but I also think that in this case it is very unlikely that Cavanaugh is off the reservation in what he said. First of all it was not controversial to any but the biggest Sanchez Homers. But beyond that, I would be very surprised if the CS's view in general of Sanchez is at odds with what Cavanaugh said.
You just don't get it, do you? I didn't think so. (Just to make sure: while I agree that Sanchez wasn't good enough, and made a lot of bone-headed turnovers, THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT. You don't throw your team under the bus in public no matter what the circumstances are.)
Right now, Jobs are on the line: and everyone is gonna get hyper-scrutinized including Mark Sanchez which is a break from what was done in the past when he was cuddled. Clearly, you get 3 years to prove that you're the guy, and since Rex is tied to Mark in some ways, the clock is ticking. Mark imploded last year, and although the team had flaws, it also expected more from Mark and was clearly needing Mark to step up and carry the team. He had 9 turnovers the final 3 games which clearly showed that he could not bare the load. These are things that are a significant backdrop to this year. And now you throw Tebow into the mix and I just don't see how Mark is able to weather the storm when he clearly could not last year, and there was zero threat to his job. Management is under the gun. And they feel that turning the heat up on Mark allows them to test his mettle since they have a guy in Tebow that won games last year, is extremely popular, and can replace him at a second's notice. In other words, they are pushing Mark over the edge: Will he soar, or crumble and fall? When Cavanaugh says "Its a Fragile Business." To me that means, "You can lose your job because its what have you done for me lately. You're not safe because of getting to an AFC Championship anymore." That's what that says to me. It also echos what John Elway said when they traded Tebow: "Its a tough business." This will be one of the key story-lines of the season. Get your popcorn ready. :shit:
Didn't see this in the OP. This seems to be as much of an indictment of the coaching staff as Sanchez. Did they not watch film during the season and point out bad decisions?
