Carl Lawson deal reworked - created $12.7 in cap

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  1. STARoSCREAM

    STARoSCREAM Well-Known Member

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    I assume all the trade comments are facetious. I think the 23 roster is pretty much set. All these restructures and moving money around is likely for AR and Q deals.

    Trading for Adams or Hopkins just isn't in the cards
     
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    I’m assuming that all the moves salary cap wise from here on out are to balance long term risk with current expectations, re adjusting AR contract to avoid out year major impact, and protect sufficient dollars for 23 in case of an unexpected injury that requires bringing in additional help. This is not to free up major $$ for a sizable new acquisition. Q contract implications does not have an impact this year but providing additional cushion in future years is a must.
     
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  4. ouchy

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    The skinny is he dropped his cap hit to 3 million this year, and got 6.5 million in guaranteed money pushed into the future, and now carries a 6.5 million dead cap next year.

    To be clear, we'd want to give some of our current cap space to Q. Were about 45 million over the 2024 cap now from the just the contracts that carry over. That will lighten once Rodgers restructures but it will still be a cap nightmare. Its also one reason we probably don't want to restructure Davis in a similar way.
     
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  5. Borat

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    Basically, Lawson was overpaid at 15 mil, given his injuries and production, but still a good player, so he agreed to play for 9. If he didn't, JD probably waives him. But worked out perfectly. For this price, he is a really good asset to have, which wasn't the case at 15 mil price point.

    Mosley has to be next: 17 mil is a lot. Yeah, he made made all Pro, but I just think it's too much for a LB, even of his caliber at 31 years of age. This was really the only good season he gave us after collecting 16/17 mil per for a few years now. This time money is not guaranteed. He needs to reduce by similar amount as Lawson did.
     
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  6. Jets OG fan

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    Yeah, I really don't want the Quinnen deal to be mega backloaded. The Jets have a lot of youth to pay a few years down the road. It makes a ton of sense to have some of that cap money hit this year if they can.

    They could do that for Rodgers as well. I think more restructures will be in the works, since they can't go over the cap at this point in the year. Every little bit helps!
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I like Carl Lawson the person a lot more than Carl Lawson the player, he disappears sometimes and you can tell the height disparity does matter - maybe not always but definitely in his case. He's a shrimp with T-Rex arms. Needed that pay cut.
     
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  8. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Lawson is a great player. Glad he stays a Jet. With him, Johnson/Clemons Year 2, Huff, McD our pass rush has some serious talent. Let's stay healthy good vibes out there.
     
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    I agree with most of this post, but don't see how/why we would try to trade for DHop. There won't be enough balls to go around as it is. Even if it would work capwise, why do it? Kwon Alexander and maybe John Johnson could be signed and they'd help the team a lot more than DHop at his age would imo. I hope that isn't even a possibility in the Jets' minds!
     
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    This has to be either for Rodgers or Q. Why would you want DHop? Are you going to make him the #2 WR or are you gonna move Wilson to #2? Why wouldn't you want to improve the D by adding Kwon Alexander and John Johnson?
     
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    You would’ve thought some of us said that his whole “top 10 pressure rate in the league one year!” was a whole bunch of bullshit for who he was as a player. :)
     
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    I'm really stoked to see what this defense can do this year.
     
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    I would like to see Kwon back…clearly JD and Saleh are not sweating it, but I thought he brought good energy to the defense
     
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    yeah I want him back idk what’s going on with that situation
     
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    https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/kwon-alexander-nfl-rumors-free-agency/
     
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    He reminds me of a Chevy Vega with a big-block shoved in the engine bay...
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Which is a pretty nice setup unless your wheels keep falling off because you can't handle the strip.
     
  18. KY Jets Fan

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    I don't know why anyone would object to adding a WR of DHop's caliber. He's a massive step up from anyone else that would be WR2 this season. A WR core of GW, DHop, Lazard, CD, Hardman is arguably top 5 in the league. I know we have A A Ron now so the thought is he should elevate what we currently have, even if he is getting up there in age, but why not make a good unit a great one? Especially one that carries such significant weight in today's NFL.

    Quite frankly, I think the D is fine as is. Would I like to re-sign Kwon or bring Johnson in? Of course, but if you're giving me an option, it's DHop or even Davante Adams (rumblings over the weekend that he isn't happy with the direction LV is heading) and it isn't particularly close.
     
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  19. BrowningNagle

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    the way people talk about Hopkins they act like he's 45 years old. He will be 31 in the fall and could play at a high level for the next 5 years easily. The Jets and every team should jump at the opportunity to acquire him.

    If he wasn't suspended half the season last year he finishes with yet another 100 rec. - 1400 yard season. We've had 2 of those type of seasons in our entire history.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Count me in on Hopkins as well. Adding him would be effectively crushing the souls of the competition. I want that.

    When the Jets pass for 300yds against Ramsay and X Howard while trouncing the Dolphins in Miami,, and the rest of the league cries uncle, it will be worth it.
     

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