Regardless of whether we draft a QB or not I would much prefer we sign a veteran QB like Bradford and let the rookie QB sit for 2 years before playing. Build our OL so we can actually protect a QB and develop some young WRs before throwing that QB into the fray. Putting an inexperienced QB in the game with our OL will quickly erode his confidence and turn him into a bad player. Let a young QB sit and learn for a years and gain confidence like Rodgers did in GB. That is how to develop a QB. You cannot draft a ready made QB like Luck, Ryan or Wilson every year.
If Oakland gets rid of McKenzie and a new head coach/GM wants Mariota, they are getting Mariota. Even if that means Derek Carr is traded or the starter until Mariota's ready. The Titans also may be tempted given Locker's on his final year of his deal and can't stay healthy and Whisenhunt may love to get that type of a QB. The Titans could trade up if they like what they see. In a perfect world for Oakland, they trade down with TEN, take Randy Gregory to help their DLine and get draft picks in the process.
Hate that mindset with a passion unless its with a late round pick. Affects the depth and talent of other areas. You have to be patient with the QB position in particular, a guy could stud out year 1 or year 2 and then fizzle out. Tampa Bay thought Josh Freeman was a keeper after 2010, then what happened.
He won't even be the best Big Ten QB, Penn St has that potentially in Hackenberg(Though he's been hot and cold in his Sophomore year). If he takes the next step his Junior season, he's the QB to watch for in 2016. Penn St will finally be able to replenish some of their recruiting abilities to stock up some talent around him. 6'4 220lbs, has the tools in place to be something.
Why would you want an injury prone QB like Bradford? Seems like a real big waste. The guy is constantly hurt and never stays on the field.
He hasn't been JaMarcus Russell. I hope Geno lands in St Louis with Austin and Bailey if we do bring in Mariota, would be a nice spot for him. Would have his two boys and some talent on the offensive side, they just need to fix up their OLine some more. They got Robinson with the 2nd pick but they need a bit more tinkering.
Lukewarm with Kiel, college experience is against him he should not leave for the 2016 class. Bolted IND, LSU and ND, 3 teams before sticking with UC, bit of a red flag there. He should have stood with Notre Dame, would have been given all year last season and Golson may have never gotten his chance this year but alas.
He seems to have the highest ceiling of any veteran QB that might be out there. Injury prone goes both ways. The cost of acquiring him will be a lot less but then again the odds of him surviving with our OL is also not great. But we might get 2-3 decent years put of him long enough to draft a young QB and let him learn and develop on the bench without ruining his potential by throwing him into the fire to early.
Sorry I should have been more clear. We have to sign a qb each year until we find him, doesn't have to be a high pick. I'm fine with the Tajh Boyd approach ( not necessarily with the pick itself). It's a position that we just can't seem to hit on and shouldn't be putting all of our eggs in one basket.
I know but the issue is you don't know what you have in a QB after just 1 successful start to a season, which is where my Freeman example comes where he was relatively good for 1 1/2 years, including a Pro Bowl nod(Doesn't mean much these days admittedly) To me, building a successful and foundation before implementing a young signal caller is more important in doing. You don't want to follow the recipe the Texans did when entering the league and throw their top pick(David Carr) behind a mediocre OLine and help him develop happy feet and feel the pass rush far sooner than it actually comes. Throwing picks away unless they are Greg McElroy random shots in the dark just doesn't help the foundation.
Mariota is gonna be a special QB...Win Iota for Mariota it is If not then Pooper for Cooper is a good backup plan
Can Mariota take snaps from under center and does he have the ability to go threw his progressions and make multiple Reads? I know these aren't super high on the priority list at Oregon but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the skill set c
Thanks but no thanks. I don't want to lose games to get a higher pick. Geno was his Senior year considered the top Qb in the draft until his team started losing games. The Ducks are not a great team they were outplayed at home by an ok Arizona team. So there's no guarantee this guy is going to be good. Sam Bradford was an overall no. 1 pick and he hasn't had a successful NFL career. As for Geno he shouldn't have started as a rookie. But if we replace him as starter you could keep him as the backup. He'll have experience about 30 starts and it's not all been negative with him.
Exactly, just because a QB does not take a lot of snaps from center in college does not mean they can not take snaps from center. Whether behind center or in shotgun it's all about having the proper footwork. Geno does not possess good footwork while Mariota does. Mariota has shown at times the ability to go through his progressions. That said, going through all your progressions at the NFL level is one of the hardest things to conquer even for the most advance collegiate QB. For young athletic QBs it takes even harder because they know they can always run.
Oh geez give up your Geno love. Depth and talent in other areas are 1,000,000 times less important than the QB. And late round picks on QBs are a complete waste (other than one incredible anomaly that folks continue to stupidly point to in discussions like this one). _
You didn't like Smith because he was a "gimmick"/"system" QB. WTF do you think Mariota is? His stats through his first 5 games aren't even as good as Geno's...lol. (166 completions for a completion % of over 81%, 1,996 yards with 24 TDs and 0 INTs). QB is not the biggest problem with this offense. The first two picks for the Jets in the 2015 draft should be WR & OL. Doesn't have to be in that order (though it probably should be), take the best available. Amari Cooper, Kevin White, Sterling Shepard would all be great additions.
