Cap Scaring Away Potential GM's

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  1. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm so glad those pussies showed their true colours before they wasted our time by turning up for an interview.
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    That was basically my thought. lol. Did they think they were going to walk into a rosey situation as a first time GM? Their's a reason the job is available jackass!
     
  3. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    the Jets had a talent and depth problem before having to release players to get to that $15 million under figure. now they have only $15 million to replace that talent and still find the depth.

    depending entirely on unproven draft picks isn't the solution, so how far do you think $15 million can go in doing so?
     
  4. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    The more I think about it, the more I realize that the next GM will probably try to unload one of the 40% players on the roster. Westoff said that just a handful of players made up 40% of our cap and unloading one of two of those guys and aquiring picks in the process would really do wonders for our cap space situation.

    It's probably not an easy task at all, but I think it's probably going to happen.
     
  5. Harpua

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    :lol:

    So true.

    This is a mess. No QB, retained head coach with a good ammount of power and an attitude, a very shallow and top heavy roster. It looks a lot more like 2005 than 2008.

    We need the right guy. Someone willing to be patient and build through the draft. If we get another big splash guy we know we are fucked for the next 5 or so years.
     
  6. Harpua

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    The majority of the roster will be a cut/FA , not a trade situation. Everyone knows Pace, Scott, Tebow, Smith, and Smith are gone. Pouha may follow them out the door for another 3.8 in savings. We are going to need to find a lot of players to make up an NFL roster next year.
     
  7. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    Scott Cohen here we come
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    There's nobody to unload for cap relief at this point. For the Jets to get cap relief out of a trade they need to have somebody who has a high cap number and salary as a big part of the cap cost to the team, who doesn't also have a lot of pro-rated bonus built up.

    That's because the pro-rated bonus is going to hit the cap at the moment of the trade but the salary, guaranteed or otherwise will become the new team's responsibility and be on their cap instead.
     
  9. VanderbiltJets

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    Either of the CB's?
     
  10. Realistic Jets Fan

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    there's this thing called "restructuring contracts" that all 32 NFL teams do on a regular basis just about every season.

    but why bother, it's easier to look at the cap as of January 10 and have a conniption fit about it
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Not much cap relief in trading Cromartie although it might gain them some ground. Taking the nyjscap.com numbers at face value it appears as though the majority if not all of Cromartie's 2013 salary is guaranteed. That's the best way to explain a $9.5 million dead cap number when he only has $2.5M in prorated bonus left and a base salary of $7M.

    With Revis there is a big negative effect associated with trading him. When the Jets signed him in 2010 they gave him a 7 year deal with a $21 million dollar bonus. The deal voids to 4 years if he makes it through the 2013 season without holding out at any point. There is still $12 million in prorated bonus out there on the deal for 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. All of it moves forward onto the current cap at the moment that the Jets trade Revis.
     
  12. Br4d

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    The Jets can restructure several players to push their cap hits a year down the road. The people this works with are the people who have both high salary/bonus figures for the year and a high cap figure.

    David Harris has a $10.9M salary +100K bonus and a $13M cap figure. He's certainly a candidate for a restructure that would free up maybe $5M for the year.

    Santonio Holmes has a $11M salary + 250K bonus and a $12.5M cap figure. Another good candidate here for another $5M or so.

    D'Brickashaw Ferguson a $7.25M salary + 750K bonus and a 10.72M cap figure. That's the third good candidate although probably not for $5M.

    The thing that prevents just paying out all but vet minimum as bonus and thereby really lowering the numbers is that a percentage of what you pay out comes right back and bites you on the cap.

    If you look at David Harris the components of his cap number are $10.9M salary, $100K bonus and $2M pro-rated bonus, which adds up to a $13M cap figure. His deal runs for 2 more years, 2013 and 2014. If the Jets take $10M of his salary and convert it to bonus then $5M comes right back and slaps them this season because 2013 and 2014 are the only caps that money can be attributed too since his contract expires after 2014.

    The only way to make the immediate hit of a bonus payout less is to extend the contract by another year or two and that gets really expensive. Because while Harris is likely to have no problem with giving the Jets cap relief as long as he gets paid in the end he's very likely to demand an actual good contract extension with more upfront money to extend the deal.

    It's cap hell. Deal with it.
     
  13. RochesterJet

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    This is how we got in this deliema in the first place... Essentially the Jets are the United States senate and congress. We are fucked my friends
     
  14. LongIslandBlitz

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    WTF happend to Gamble??? He hasn't been hired by anyone else yet
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    This was posted in another thread but it is relevant here too.

    Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31
    "I would like the challenge of turning the #Jets around and bring them to the playoffs. It's New York." - Jim Popp

    Here's a guy who welcomes a challenge instead of running away from it.
     
  16. VanderbiltJets

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    Agreed that it's not idea. Personally, that's why I think we're in Cap Hell: we can make this situation marginally better but no matter what we do we'll be stuck in the mud for 2013.
     
  17. LongIslandBlitz

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    Who is Jim Poop?
     
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  20. Don

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    We are fucked for the next 5 years if we get the right guy too..building through the draft means this team won't contend again for at least that long.
     

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