I should rephrase, I don't mean major in the way of top money, I mean major in the way of good NFL performers. Rather than say Williams on the Bills, I mean more guys like Jeff Saturday. Cortland Finnegan Solid NFL players who could make a real difference to a team for 4-7M that we can't really afford more than 1 of.
If we cut Tebow, we don't have to pay him next year either, right? There's some more money available because there's no reason he should be here next year. None.
The biggest issue the Jets will face next year is having 18 players under contract for cap numbers totaling 88.9M. It's not just the raw numbers, it's who the players are. David Harris, 13M Mark Sanchez, 12.85M Santonio Holmes, 12.5M Antonio Cromartie, 10.75M D'Brickashaw Ferguson, 10.72M Nick Mangold, 9.12M Darrelle Revis, 9M Kyle Wilson, 2.01M Quinton Coples, 2M Mo Wilkerson, 1.88M Stephen Hill, 1.07M Kenrick Ellis, 708K DeMario Davis, 664K Bilal Powell, 655K Jeremy Kerley, 601K Greg McElroy, 501K Garrett McIntyre, 568K Josh Bush, 506K Those are all guys that barring a total management turnover are going to be on the roster next year. They don't include the obvious cuts. They don't include the likely bust cuts even under the continuing management. They don't include the free agents hitting the market. They don't include the sideshows that the Jets probably can't afford to maintain. 18 guys nearly 90M in cap space. That leaves somewhere between 35-40 million for the other 35 roster slots and a whole bunch of starting positions are mixed into those slots. It's going to be very ugly to deal with and the Jets roster next year is likely to only be better in an addition by subtraction manner, with cap space getting cleared for the seasons moving forward after 2013.
Next year will be the spike year - doesn't exonerate the futility of the past two years, but all signs point to that direction. Jets could be looking at 3-13 or worse.
Just realized there's another 9M+ in dead money associated with the sure cuts and the likely too expensive to keep categories. That means the Jets will have like 26-31 million to fill the other 35 slots. That's like squeaking tight even with a lot of UDFA players making minimum and more than a few starters in that group.
1) Trades don't work that way 2) Contracts don't work that way 3) Guaranteed money doesn't work that way 4) The NFL doesn't work that way 5) Trading him for nothing would trigger more dead money than already due to him, so we'd be trading for nothing and a mini-blackhole valued at, at least according to NYJC, worth negative $4.3 million. Other than that, great suggestion(s).
Thats been the problem with this orginaztion for as long as i can remember, They trade there great players after 4 or 5 years, trading your only two probowl players isn't how u build a team
2010 wasn't that long ago we had a good team, Tanny decided to move to many parts and not replace them with better or equal players,You don't just go to two afc championship games then suck without there being a real reason for it
Greene's a Free Agent, McKnight costs less than $1 million, Moore is a Free Agent why are you concerned about his future plans?, Bell's a Free Agent but saying he shouldn't be brought back is idiotic at best, and Devito's a free agent. 3/12ers see the world differently. Please explain to me precisely how the Jets, given their cap problems, replace and (according to you) upgrade the likes of Pouha by spending less than $3.83 million while absorbing $2.33 million in dead money? I would ask you the same question for others but I know you won't be able to answer that one. The NFL is increasingly becoming a run-first league, great point! It's much more important for the Jets to have talent spread across all positions than it is to maximize the roster's talent, I guess? It's so profound, it... just... might... work. Seriously though your tone is way off, didn't the Jets sign two safeties that completely turned around the position... Matt Cassel says hi "They gotta be better than what we have! ANYTHING is better than what we have! Let's trade Cro, Revis, and Wilkerson to the Patriots in exchange for Talib!!!!! He's on the Pats so obviously he's better!" This makes zero sense. We should trade away our best players for under the market value with the hopes that other teams may some day return the favor? That logic is unbecoming of any legitimate football fan. Seriously though, you must've been having an aneurysm while you typed that. And that's without me asking you how the hell you expect the Jets to continue their cap killing ways (cut players with dead money remaining on their contracts, replace them with overpaid free agents, repeat) while expecting better future results. Have you considered applying to replace Tanny?
Another great idea. Let's bring in a guy like Donnie Walsh and, like the Knicks, drive him away by having the team's owner override the GM on major roster decisions.
Okay. Looks like we will be in cap hell next year. How about the year after? Any chance we will have cap space to bring in some good pieces for 2014 season if we sacrifice 2013 entirely? How deep are we in this shite?
The only way the Jets remain in cap hell in 2014 is if they cut several deals next year with the top 6 or 7 players on the roster to defer the cap hit for a year and also sign Revis to an really unwieldy deal. The keys to cap hell ending after 2013 are: Sanchez can be cut for only a 4.8M hit, Cromartie can be cut for only a 1.25M hit, Holmes can be cut for only a 2.5M hit, Harris can be cut for only a 2M hit. That's a combined total of 10.55M dead money on guys that are realistic cuts. The total for those same 4 guys in 2013 would be 46.9M.
Dolan is a garbage owner; but overruling Donny Walsh on the Carmelo Anthony trade is turning out to be a good move.
Thanks The logic dictates to cut Sanchez and trade Holmes if possible. Also giving Revis a contract extension and absorbing big chunk of his salary in 2013 might give us a shot for 2014.
Depends on how next year goes. Per NYJC we have $95 million in cap value committed to 24 players. But cutting Sanchez before 2014 and having already cut Holmes, BScott and Tebow means just under $70 million committed to 20 players. Bad? Yes. Catastrophic? No. That doesn't include potential cuts in Pouha ($1.16 million dead; $5.5 million potential savings) and Cromartie ($1.25 million dead; $9.5 million potential savings). In conclusion, either the Jets stop cutting and deferring as much dead money as possible beginning this offseason/into next season or face two consecutive years of close to negative cap space.
Did some reading. Originally thought that the 2013 cap would be set at about $121 million, but that may not be the case: http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/.../18/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/NFL-cap.aspx
All i fuckin know is we need a stud skill posistion player in the first and second rounds of the draft next year, We need a RB in the first round and another WR in the second or vice vera, enough of the defensive picks in the first round, save them for rounds 3 and 4 this year
If the Jets want to keep Revis the answer is probably to tank next season and cut everybody they can for the season to free up space for a front loaded deal. To do that they cut the following players: David Harris (saves 4 million on the cap, replace him with a young guy drafted in the middle rounds making much less - net savings 3.4M) Calvin Pace (saves 8.56 million on the cap, sure cut in almost any scenario anyway) Bart Scott (saves 7.15 million on the cap, sure cut in almost any scenario anyway) Jason Smith (saves 12M on the cap, no point in trying to rework the deal because he's not a good player) Sione Pouha (saves 3.83M on the cap, likely cut anyway) Eric Smith (saves 3M on the cap, sayonara) Tim Tebow (saves 1.53M, and removes a huge distraction) That's about where it stands. There are no cuts beyond that that would make sense in a "Save Darrelle" scenario. Nobody you'd cut gains you more than about 1.25 million and Woody would be outraged at having to pay the guaranteed salaries that would be attached to those small savings. Once you get below about a million in savings there is no point unless you just want to get rid of the player and sign anybody to replace them. BTW, the Jets salary cap situation right now is an absolute atrocity for somebody who is supposedly a salary cap expert to have inflicted on the team. Whatever his genius with the cap was designed to do it is clear that it radically altered the Jets trajectory downwards at this point and has come close to ruining the franchise.
