With a draft as deep as next year's, I seriously doubt he does. This year's draft was weak enough that moving up was exactly the right move in both instances.
yeah people dont like the trading but I do because you nailed it. I was just having that conversation with someone the other day about how particularly weak last years class was. and this years is going to be ridiculous. especially if there some key early declares.
You make a valid point but I'm one of the few people on this board who would not worry about Leon being our full-time back. Also, RB's don't need to be groomed. We could have just drafted a RB next year (and not trade up for one) and gotten the steal of Gilbert this year. I like your thinking though. Hopefully being the D mastermind he is he will get a no-name player to step up and play well.
I liked what happened this year from the perspective of getting Sanchez... he seems like he could be a special player so it's all worth it if that turns out to be true, BUT we need to keep our picks for at least the next 3 drafts so we can add critical depth to our o line and our d line particularly.
I also wouldnt mind Leon being full time. but in all reality if hes gonna see 16+ carries in that role the playcalling needs to be right. and in all reality its more effective to have a defense tire down and then unleash your fastest and most agile player. so thats what im getting to in the sense that next year Leon is the starter, and Greene will be a change of pace/ red zone back. i also wouldnt mind a split back formation using both of them in the pass game or on inside runs. but thats next year I'm getting ahead of myself. I wanted Gilbert too, but the thing is, Ive seen alot more of Greene in college against better competition, and I loved him. IMO those were the only two players worth trading up for in the position we were in. we happened to go with the more proven commodity. and even more, god forbid leon goes down next year after we ship off TJ. (hes going, no way Jets trade up for Greene only to pay Jones another huge bonus after trying to extend Leon) with the kind of offense we have to have to fit the MO Rex wants for this team. thats simply why you draft Greene. i think Rex has more confidence in his ability to find players for his defense than to scout RB's. sure thats what our scouting dept is for. well, then it simply boils down to. Rex Ryan saw Greenes footage last year and said. "We have to have him". plain and simple.
I'm sure the Jets are still smarting over what happened to Ward. If they are worried the same thing could happen with Woodhead then they will keep him or try and trade him. If they are worried he will be signed off the PT then he must be tradeable.
i agree, if danny woodhead is forcing us to move other shit around for this football, sorry you gotta go, and I would love woodhead to make this team, but you can't fuck around with the team for woodhead
Woodhead is a feel good story, but where does he really fit in and what does he add to the team? Washington is the same kind of player, only much better, and Jones and Greene are ahead of him also. He's not a special teams player either. I think he might survive the first week or four with the suspensions and then its bye-bye, but I wouldn't cut a TE or lineman to keep a player who likely will never see the field.
I sadly agree. I think this is the best post in the thread. Let's say he makes the team. He's our #4 RB and just a poor man's leon honestly. I think our RB depth is the same as our LB depth. We have some guys we willl have to cut but will probably go get some good playing time elsewhere.
I'm trying to figure out what the surprise is here? Not one of the names mentioned as cuts comes as a surprise.
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to use one of our extra 2 roster spots on a 4th string RB. If he's on the 55, I'm guessing he sticks.
Well you know, you could keep him since Greene is injured and in case one of the RB gets injured... plus you have 4 more weeks to evaluate him. And also, he just had his amazing preseason game... if you cut him now some fans will go mad, if you cut him in 4 weeks time many of these fans won't give a crap anymore... PS also keeping him now sends the message that if you work your butt off you make the final cut. Cutting him in 4 weeks won't take that message go away... PPS and also you have 4 more weeks to shop him for a low round pick (don't really see it as a possibility but you never know)
Yeah. We've got some aging players and a solid young core. We need to somehow get extra picks this year.
Its a ridiculous statement to make that your sending a wrong message if you cut him. All these players are trying for their shot at the NFL and a big payday - what makes Woodhead different - because he's short and from a small school ?? I'm sure guys like Kareem Brown and Jehru Caulcrick just floated their way through training camp w/o working hard - right. Its one thing to pull for a guy because he's an underdog , let's not assume he's the only player out there busting their butts.
I wouldn't mind trading a late round pick if there is a guy who may be worth a shot... but first of all lets see if we can get someone good off waivers.
Every time you hear Ryan speak about Woodhead, EVERY SINGLE TIME, the first thing he says about him is that he puts 150% effort every day to make the team. I'm sure during training camp all guys give 100% but if a guy gives 150% you have to give him more credit then the others... PS and I repeat, I'm not saying it's my opinion Woodhead puts in so much effort, I actually have no idea! It's Rex Ryan's and the coaching staff opinion.
What makes him different? For starters, his team mates voted him the rookie who most exemplifies the attitude, work ethic and determination that makes a player the best he can be. What makes him different is that he tore it up in a preseason game. He took all the snaps when Leon and Jones weren't there. What makes him different is when Ryan said "What more could we ask him to do?" What makes him different is that he WILL not clear waivers if he's cut. What makes him different is his speed and his ability to be a return man. What did Cotchery say? He was MUCH more looking forward to the "Danny Woodhead show", not Vick's return to the NFL. What makes him different is having the most career yardage in NCAA football, across all divisions. What makes him different is gaining the second highest preseason single game rushing recond in preseason since they started to keep stats. There are a lot of things that make Woodhead different. He has not only captured the fans, he has captured his team mates. I think he may have captured the coaches too. Yes, Woodhead is definitively different from any other bubble player on the roster. If one cannot see that, one is blind.
Are we married to the idea of leonard returning punts?, I see this as a potential role he could play. You always need playmakers..To keep Caulcrick on the roster because he is a big dude that gives us depth at FB, instead of a lightning rod playmaker, who by the way, seems to be very well like by his teammates, would be a mistake. And, I am not comparing him to our boy Leon..I am comparing his bigtime playmaking abilities to a text book FB.
